First Killzone screenshot/details? So says USAToday..
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I predict right now you wont see it until November 2008.
Ironclad.
Videogames are always delayed.
I´ve heard that it has already been downgraded, No day and night cicle etc.
Dont know if it has been completly removed but since they are using static shadows then it would seem so.
Fran had some interesting things to tell from the tech presentation.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1039398&postcount=88
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1039408&postcount=90
About static shadows and lights, I found this very interresting.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1039933&postcount=121
No, what I meant was:
Was day-night cycle planned into KillZone 2 in the first place ? We were only told about weather effects as far as I can recall. What official day-night downgrade are we talking about ? Most of us, including myself, are just speculating here. :|
Come to think of it, for an FPS, do you always have to fight during day break or dusk (for the day <-> night switch to happen), or do you fight for so long that the day changes to night (and vice versa) ? Can't they go to a different level for day or night combat ?
Was day-night cycle planned into KillZone 2 in the first place ? We were only told about weather effects as far as I can recall. What official day-night downgrade are we talking about ? Most of us, including myself, are just speculating here. :|
Come to think of it, for an FPS, do you always have to fight during day break or dusk (for the day <-> night switch to happen), or do you fight for so long that the day changes to night (and vice versa) ? Can't they go to a different level for day or night combat ?
Well all shadows are not static of course. But since there are static shadows in the game (probably for buildings and such) then day-time cycles would look strange as real-time shadows wont point at the same direction as static shadows.
I imagine they get up to a high amount of real-time lights when summing in the muzzle flashes, building lights, explosions, and weather like thunder rays etc (like in Stalker for example which uses a DR engine to).
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Suppose you fight at sunset, in ~30 mins the sun has disappeared and thus things get dark. Now imagine seeing how the shadows change position and gives new hiding points and impresses the player! :smile:
I guess that is why they choosed to not have day & night cicle in the game.
Indeed that would be very impressive. In fact I have already seen it......in a other game
Supposed ? It is not a downgrade _if_ none was planned in the first place ? Otherwise, every game without this feature would be a downgrade from day 1.
If the Sun has disappeared, can't they remove the static shadow totally and leave the dynamic lights only to work their magic ? (I am genuinely asking a question here).
What do you mean with: "dynamic lights only to work their magic "?
Of course, but there was some talk about daytime changes in this game. May have been speculations though (Im to lazy to go out on a link hunt now!)! :smile:
When the sun disappears it is dark, I am talking about daytime until it gets dark!
If sun still up then > Not really since then it would be better to not have the static shadows from the beginning. Since the sun moves constantly and so does the shadows direction.
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There is no downgrade that we know of. Fran was talking about possible features set (HDR, day/night etc) not the initial specs of K2. Some certain group of people choose to interpret that as a downgrade as expected.
Realtime day/night cycle would be an overkill for linear FPS where gameplay is discreetly levelized. I would expect Killzone 2 more old school in that sense, as opposed to Far Cry or Crysis. Offline cycle is always possible of course.
If the stormy wheather in the game is caused by weapons that Helgahst controls and you destroy theses weaopons so the sky clears from clouds would make a time-of-day'ish cycle. :smile:
Anyways, it seems like Guerrilla tailors this engine for the game and gameplay instead of, for e.g Crytek where they put all effect and techniques they can think of in an engine, and then build a game out of it - like an afterthought.
Anyways, it seems like Guerrilla tailors this engine for the game and gameplay instead of, for e.g Crytek where they put all effect and techniques they can think of in an engine, and then build a game out of it - like an afterthought.
[Looks to Okaban]
Nebula said:
Isn't it possible to implement "changing shadow" with dynamic light for a particular sunset level, or even a night time level ?
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