All purpose Sales and Sales Rumours and Anecdotes [2021 Edition]

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  1. Silent_Buddha

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    As I posted in the other thread, the UK market isn't the world market. While this is an interesting and important data point, that's all it is.

    https://www.resetera.com/threads/media-create-sales-week-21-2021-may-24-may-30.435827/

    When just looking at PS4 and PS5 for Resident Evil Village in Japan, for instance.
    • PS4 lifetime sales - ~77%
    • PS5 lifetime sales - ~23%
    • PS4 sales for that week - ~74%
    • PS5 sales for that week - ~26%
    In Japan, RE8 sells approximately 4:1 in favor of PS4.

    Depending on what country you look at, the ratio will change. We have no idea what the ratios are in the EU much less NA or the rest of the world.

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    The UK market probably looks like more like US and western europe and Middle east. Japan is really a different market than the other. Games don't sold good on PS5 but I suppose many consoles are imported in other country. I know in Europe the best way to have a new PS5 is to buy an imported japanese one.

    Same in Asia many imported japanese PS5.

    Home console market is dying in Japan.
     
  3. Silent_Buddha

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    It could be, it might be. It might not be.

    We do know from past sales charts that software sells differently in NA than it does in the EU. And even though the UK sells more similarly to the US in some area's games don't always sell the same in the UK as it does in the US. IMO, PS5 is selling more copies across the world than the PS4, however, we currently don't have any data that would allow us to determine how much better it sells on one console versus another.

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    Again we have data from time to time in Spain and PS5 version sold better too. And from time to time of other european country. And all the time, the new versions sold better and people wait to have the new consoles. It was the same during the transition PS3/PS4.

    And we have data for Japan, more than 50% of the people having a PS5 don't buy japanese games. I suppose many consoles are exported in other country. The number of games sold is very weak.

    I suppose if the Ps5 wasn't out of the stock, number of PS4 games sold would be less than 10% compared to PS5.
     
  5. Silent_Buddha

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    I just stated that, IMO, PS5 is probably selling better than PS4. The ratio is what's in question and what no one here has any ability to know.

    Software (game) sales are already massively different this generation than for PS3/PS4 transition. You just have to look at Sony's FY report to see this. Instead of a MASSIVE drop in game sales revenue, revenue has increased for game sales.

    A lot more games are selling this transition because everything is available on PS4 and playable with enhancements on PS5 in many cases and in some cases PS5 games enabled to run on PS4.

    In other words, the PS3/PS4 transition isn't that relevant for this generation.

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    This doesn't mean people are buying more new cross gen games than backlog games or games at a lower price. When we have some version difference it goes heavily in favor to PS5 and the sales of Ps4 and it would be much more than this if the console was not out of stock all time.

    For Fiscal year 21, Sony forecast 30% of game sales will be on PS5 and forecast than the PS5 will be around 20% of the PS4 install base if they will reach 15 millions forecasted PS5 sales for fiscal year 21 . And a total of 22,8 millions PS5 shipped the 31 march 2022.

    At the end Sony will see the result were the same than Konami when they did the 360 and PS3 versions of MGS 5. PS4 version will help a little probably around 20% of LTD sales but people want a new hardware.
     
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    Newer quote BTW.

    Rest of your post is hyperbole & not worth my time.

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    I bought a Fallout 4 GOTY code for Xbox for £8 because of GamePass. Why you ask? Because Microsoft include the the 2015 in Game Pass but if you want the whole experience, you have to buy all the DLC separately or the GOTY edition, either way is around £60 now. Whilst you can certainly play the base game without DLCs, none of the interesting mods are written to work without the DLCs - too complicated I guess.

    I don't even consider this a bad Game Pass experience, it was just unexpected. Like Fallout 3 not being in Game Pass. Sometimes I get whiplash about what is included then noting what isn't. I'm sure there are reasons, but it's interesting.

    In another post AzBat noted that Outriders was included in Game Pass which I had overlooked. This is the kind of game I reckon I can enjoy a few hours but wouldn't want to pay for.. Downloading...
     
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    I hear one can get lost in all The Yakuza games on GamePass if that's your thing. Same with Dragon Quest Builders 2.

    I hear Knockout City is also hilariously good fun. Even more so with friends.
     
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    Last time my best friend and I played co-op, we tried this. Kinda of learning curve at first(definitely play all of the tutorial or you'll get slaughtered). I was just surprised that's it's more to it than throwing & catching a dodgeball. But it's just multiplayer & although it can be fun to play with friends, I just don't see it lasting. Should have been free-to-play from the start instead of a free trial/Game Pass game.

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    Btw, people are wrong to assume GP subscribers are hardcore gamers. Not all of them are, my son included. As noted earlier he only plays about 6 hours per week, compared to about 8 for myself and 10 for my CoD addicted older son. :)

    I'll admit that I don't buy many games outside of GP, but am considering picking up Alan Wake to finish it and RE:Village, because it seems pretty awesome, but more than likely will wait for a sale to play this one. I haven't paid full price for a game since Halo Wars 2 four years ago.
     
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