Middle Generation Console Upgrade Discussion [Scorpio, 4Pro]
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I don't think it matters for them. PS4 pro is out , its not like Sony can change it. Switch while the hardware isn't fully known has been announced and we know its launch date.
MS can just get more news cycles for Scorpio with little effort here and still get a bump later on when they announce how many cores Scorpio will have and at what clock speed. They still have type of ram and amount to announce and who knows what else . They can keep Scorpio in the news cycle from Dec till launch if they really want
MS can just get more news cycles for Scorpio with little effort here and still get a bump later on when they announce how many cores Scorpio will have and at what clock speed. They still have type of ram and amount to announce and who knows what else . They can keep Scorpio in the news cycle from Dec till launch if they really want
8 cores.
they did say they would give more info by end of year, but that doesn't mean I think it will be at that event.
do think they could trickle out information if they wanted to.
not just about hardware, about how games currently in development, or being released before launch will see a benefit with and without patches.
don't even have to show new games yet, fh3, gears4 and how they will be on Scorpio.
they did say they would give more info by end of year, but that doesn't mean I think it will be at that event.
do think they could trickle out information if they wanted to.
not just about hardware, about how games currently in development, or being released before launch will see a benefit with and without patches.
don't even have to show new games yet, fh3, gears4 and how they will be on Scorpio.
This will really motivate people to buy a One S
people been saying that since E3.
It's not like MS has been quiet about it since then either.
if that's the case then it may not even be able to match, much less clock higher than 4pro's cpu.
It might be a mistake to look at it this way. While its true that having more is always better, a majority of CPU cycles are constantly taken up by the code found within render(). I've asked about this to see if things have reduced, and the response is that render still takes up the lot of the CPU cycles.
We know that today, that engines are still not using execute indirect and it's equivalent names, which should dramatically reduce many of the draw calls submitted by render(). So the way I see it, though today there may not be enough CPU (with how games are made today), as engine moves to GPU side dispatch, it's freeing up a large portion of that CPU to either increase frame rate, or to have other interesting things like AI.
tldr; while I know people will be disappointed by the lack of a new CPU, I don't necessarily think the technologies in place on the CPU side (currently) are completely out of spec. It may just take some time to get there, but inevitably will.
@iroboto wasn't starting if it's good, bad or just right.
well written response.
I'm not sure how much that would ease up the pressure on the cpu in the short, middle or long term though.
especially pushing for high framerates for vr?
guess I should've said I expect speed to be in same ballpark if it's jaguar
well written response.
I'm not sure how much that would ease up the pressure on the cpu in the short, middle or long term though.
especially pushing for high framerates for vr?
may be more mature but the gpu is also fair bit bigger.
guess I should've said I expect speed to be in same ballpark if it's jaguar
possibly (if jaguar), would then be up to them to be able to prove/sell it to people that it's good enough.
see @iroboto post.
not sure how receptive people will be though, and it's not the mass market who would just think hey it's more powerful that will be buying it.
they've also pretty much used up all the good will of "wait and see" with the cloud. People will need to be convinced from the start that it's good enough to cross generations into xb2
Yes but 8 cores of what ? What if its 4 cores of zen + 4 cores of puma or 4 cores of zen and 4 cores of zen lite .
MS has a ton of information they are sitting on. VR , Game upscaling , controller , console look , gpu , ram amount and so on. They can pop one off a month or pick up steam moving closer to release date
What the top selling console since its introduction at E3 in June which was also the announcement day of Scorpio ?
nE marketing team can do that, if they cuda.
the fuck is a zen lite
why back to cell
what
Given MS's stated goals for the machine an upclocked version of the same CPU makes a lot of sense. The only place I see a better CPU being able to make a difference is in VR titles and is that enough incentive given the potential problems with manufacturability, cost and compatibility that might create?
was just pointing out that they did say core count already.
I agree there's a lot hardware wise that we don't know, and even just minor details would give us a lot of information.
not sure what because it's Microsoft means though.
but they could say 8 logical cores, even if people (rightly so) expected they meant physical. If it was zen people would probably be happy enough with just that though.
I personally think they shouldn't have mentioned core count at all though. That's a personal thing though, I just find it the most irrelevant bit of info they gave, and muddies the water for my guess work
I agree there's a lot hardware wise that we don't know, and even just minor details would give us a lot of information.
not sure what because it's Microsoft means though.
but they could say 8 logical cores, even if people (rightly so) expected they meant physical. If it was zen people would probably be happy enough with just that though.
I personally think they shouldn't have mentioned core count at all though. That's a personal thing though, I just find it the most irrelevant bit of info they gave, and muddies the water for my guess work
may all be good points, but not sure how the 'enthusiast' who they plan to sell to would feel about that though.
the people buying it will care about such things.
especially if it's jaguar in same ballpark frequency of 4pro which is what I would currently expect if that's the processor they go with.
Year later, same processor, around same speed, wauuut.
like I said personally not my view at the moment, but could see that reaction.
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