I agree both the pack and the mask look very good, but don't think it is more difficult than human face.
I was particularly referring to edges of fabric clothing where bump-mapping fails (in any game).
What rules? No comparison?
First Killzone screenshot/details? So says USAToday..
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I was particularly referring to edges of fabric clothing where bump-mapping fails (in any game).
What rules? No comparison?
I didn't see it at first, but as someone pointed out on Eurogamer, it's not a shadow!
Seems like a demo of the destructable environment after all. The shape of the edges of the 'shadow' make more sense now. You can see the lighting model catch just a hint of the wall of the exposed room in the back, and you can see different textures and detail of the room behind, with rubble to the right.
The choice of this shot makes more sense now. Clever!
EDIT: or hmm, maybe not. Some of the spots on the wall continue in the shadow, so I guess it's just a shadow that doesn't kill off all the detail.
Yes it seems more like a shadow, see this image which is brighter.
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6396/killzone2screenshot1bx3.jpg
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First impressions are everything.
Those who want the box at their preferred price point are not blind to developments today. They are attaching a stigma to it that they will find very hard to shake off. The price point is fixable, destroying what your brand stands for is not.
That would be true if they were only spending on Killzone, perhaps
I would posit that they shouldn't be spending this sort of money on KillZone (rumoured to have an astronomical budget) but instead spending it on trying to obtain some 3rd party exclusives of known franchises, you know like their competitors have been doing. I don't agree with their biased first-party strategy at all, I think it's total suicide.
But yeah I don't wanna derail the thread, so back on topic
I don't think you can tell much from this screenshot of one model against a wall. The game should be judged by how it looks in motion.
Comparison threads were never allowed, but the mods are tightening up generally for E3:
http://forum.beyond3d.com/announcement.php?f=35
They specify platform and screenshot comparisons, but it may apply more generally than that..just saying to be aware.
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Also, where is all the light coming from if it's a reflection.
1^WORD. Scripted.
That question remains.
If the left shoulder of Heighast guy is casting visible shadow on the wall (as in Nebula's illustration), the light source should be in front of the camera very close to the guy.
I think it may be gun fire, but still weird since I don't see any other effect.
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Looks to me like its the flashlight under the player's gun.
I think the orange thingy probably is a bullet decal, or bullet decal in transition - the shot was apparently taken just after a bullet hit the wall on the left - but I doubt it's the (dominant) light source in the scene, if one at all. The GDC demo apparently featured some structures being riddled with bullet holes, and light pouring in through them from outside, but it wasn't explicit as to whether those light shafts actually affected the dynamic lighting of the scene or not. It would be sweet if they did, but that might be a tech-whore fantasist interpretation of what was described of the GDC demo.
edit - here's the dev from the playstation boards on the light source in the room:
edit - here's the dev from the playstation boards on the light source in the room:
That makes the most sense. Doesn't explain the weird helmet lighting on the baddie but that's undoubtedly creative license.
Weird that they'd show off a "pre-pre-alpha" tonight since this is pretty much a make or break title for the PS3 given the amount of hysteria the rendered trailer generated, but I'm sure it'll look better in motion where you can't pick apart the flaws as easily. I think instead of the cataclysmic meltdown that everyone predicted we'll probably see the various camps taking away what they want from the presentation.
That's what I thought at first. The shadow of the right side of the guy is consistent with flashlight under the gun or around the belt but left side's shadow is very big for that (if it is indeed shadow).
Also there is the darkness behind legs.
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They are only showing it tonight because USA Today broken the embargo and released a tiny low quality version of this scene. Releasing the full size version of the image was just damage control.
Tomorrow the full batch of screen shots as well as other media should be publicly released.
Maybe this was the least violent shot or the only one out of the batch that USA Today could actually use.
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I am very shure that it is a shadow, look at the image below and the red rings. See how wallmarks goes into the shaded wallpart.
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w193/NebulasPhotoPocket/killzone2screenRedRings.jpg
According to the dev it is from the latest build which still is pre-pre-alpha!
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