First Killzone screenshot/details? So says USAToday..

I see, my apologies from the misunderstanding.

Though, I do think if they did add hazing to distinguish depth, that a lot of people would cite that as a technical short coming and 'fog' lol.

But I see what you're saying now. I just absolutely HATE the use of DOF right now with next generation games. It's done so poorly and out of taste, just 'tossed in' because it's 'easy to do' for the current generation of games.

Even then though, atmospheric haze is something that generally doesn't become visable for about 25 miles or so right?

 

Depends on the atmosphere. A smoky club doesn't stretch 25 miles

 

Exactly. Now KZ's levels are war zones, so they should have plenty of smoke from gunshots, fire, explosions and lots of dust, too...

MGS4 does it quite well, for example.

 

IGN has posted Killzone 2 Hands On
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/815/815430p1.html


and few new images:
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/815/815434/killzone-2-20070824053739326.jpg
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/815/815434/killzone-2-20070824053737858.jpg
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/815/815434/killzone-2-20070824053740748.jpg

 

The editors got it wrong..

The world is Helghan and the race are the Helghast..

 

500 different lightsources in a level seems like a lot to me.

Seems like they even have a sun as a lightsource despite trying to block it with their post processing stuff

I hope a "day mode" is unlockable when completing the game.

I assume they took this picture when the filters were disabled.

 

I'm not sure, but having 500 light sources there, doesn't mean the engine can cope with all of them at once without a hitch in framerate. From what I read, many of the lightsources are used up by flying rockets, flashes of blazing guns etc.

Very impressived.

I still hate the trend towards 30fps in most games now, especially FPS (I think Resistance would play even better at 60fps), but if they at least get it to run as smooth as Insomniac did their game with these graphics, I think I'll be happy enough

 

OR..

It's a screenshot of an in door very well lit area of the game (as opposed to the outdoor, thundercloud-covered, night-time footage we've seen previously).. Seriously it doesn't take a genius to understand that the scenes shown before we're intentionally made to look dark and discoloured according to the environment the combat was taking place in..

Also even if it was a random artistic decision to make everything ark and gloomy then I don't understand what the fuss would have been about.. I didn't hear anybody complain about the "moody" look of movies like "Sin City" for example..

 

Exactly...the sheer grittiness of this game is part of what could make it so awesome, if they do it right.

Although, that said, I WOULD like to see some variety of course.

 

The light is coming from one place, and it's too strong to be artificial lighting in my opinion.

I stick with my thoughts about it being without the post processing effects. Seems like the most likely given what can be seen in the image.

Unless of course there are day sections of the game without the gloom.

I think you may have gotten the wrong end of the stick anyway, I am not against the gloomy feel of the game, I just think it would be nice to play through the game being able to see everything.

 

What like gears? (with it's use of practically every shade of brown imaginable!?)

 

That's why they're using deferred rendering. They calculate lighting in screen space, which is a lot more efficient and mostly independent of scene complexety.

 

Yeah, the good old "180 degrees rotation on the wrist gives you the candy wrapper effect"

 

Good stuff. Don't forget the gameplay.

 

Even more info about the gameplay.

Gamespot Killzone 2 hands-on.

 

I just watched the gametrailers vid.

I'll be frank: Graphics = perfect. Now they just need to tighten up the gameplay/AI on level 3, because it's certainly not very inspiring in that vid.

EDIT: I take back the part about the graphics being perfect.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/815/815434/killzone-2-20070824053740748.jpg

His arms! WTH.

 

Sounds sweet!

Seems like they're using a cover system as well. It adds so much to a typical fps IMO. Something like bioshock where the enemies are freaks, it doesn't matter much because they're running after you and/or unpredictable. But when faced with more traditional, intelligent enemies, it makes all the difference.

In the first Gears they leaned on cover so much so that if you didn't use it, you'd die rather quickly. KZ2 sounds like they're trying to give players more freedom in that regard and letting them choose to run n gun or take cover. Makes me curious how Gears2 will approach their design.

Good to see the gameplay is already at a playable level and seemingly well polished. I'm looking forward to this one!

 

Killzone 2 gametrailers footage

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24038.html < blood splatters & cover sistem [whoever is playing doesent know how to play FPS games]
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24022.html?type= < level size

"Hands on" by CGV
"Hands on" by Gamespot

 

the levels are huge, I noticed a little screen tearing in the rocket launcher clip but it's early, the textures are blurry, he's probably playing on the easiest difficulty, the blood spray and spatter on the walls is AWESOME, it has a cover system that looks like rainbow 6: vegas but it's in first-person, it's not like stranglehold where the whole pillar is destroyed by one clip (small parts fall off with every shot), in the intro video he detaches the camera and goes waaaaaaaay out and there's no pop-up at all, he says the level is 2 GB.

 

Just...