First Killzone screenshot/details? So says USAToday..

[tha_con]

Soft shadows (occlusion) and indirect lighting could be an area where these consoles keep their own. When these are processing dependent rather than texture/memory dependent, the closed-hardware will be very advantageous in developers targetting implementations. And a game with these lighting effects will continue to look awesome for a good while to come.

Oh, I agree completely, I just don't think we should be looking for these things so soon in either of these consoles life span, if at all.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Oh, I agree completely, I just don't think we should be looking for these things so soon in either of these consoles life span, if at all.

Actually KZ is exactly the game to look for it! Indirect lighting is supposed to be in there. It wasn't clear in the origianl showiong, but the presentation on KZ's lighting tech showed the indirect lighting pass and it looked convincing, and these latest screenshots show much clearer secondary illumination. I'm hopeful yet!

 

[dantruon]

This game will pull $300 out of my wallet next year for a ps3 followed promptly by snatching another $60 from my left pocket.

i think i need a loan (full time student) when this game come out.

 

[DieH@rd]

 

[Bad_Boy]

I love it.
thanks DieH@rd.

 

[Konrad]

OM*G

The game looks really good. Any new video out?

 

[Laa-Yosh]

The one thing that's still missing is a sense of depth, right now you can't really distinguish between enemies close and far away from the player and the same goes for the buildings, too. Fog, layers of dust and/or smoke, whatever, but it needs more to better separate the foreground and background.

Apart from this, it looks really good.
Maybe the color depth is a bit lacking for all the post processing a bit, or there's some other reason for loosing the high luminance levels...

 

["Nerve-Damage"]

*pics above*

Killzone 2 is definitely the best looking FPS on any console system.

 

[DieH@rd]

The one thing that's still missing is a sense of depth, right now you can't really distinguish between enemies close and far away from the player and the same goes for the buildings, too. Fog, layers of dust and/or smoke, whatever, but it needs more to better separate the foreground and background.

Thats called camouflage. They dont want to wear white coats with neon signs "shoot me" on the battlefied. But yeah, color pallete reminds me to Quake 2 single player. All in 256 collors,


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OFFTOPIC:

Oh my god...

 

[Laa-Yosh]

Thats called camouflage. They dont want to wear white coats with neon signs "shoot me" on the battlefied.

Sense of depth is very important for a 3D game. Especially if you don't have stereo vision, you need to be able to feel the distances. It's an artistic issue, usually independent of gameplay/story stuff and quite more important as well.

The common way for this is to add fog and atmospherics; you can use hw fog, depth-dependent color correction (usually lowering the contrast), or multiple layers of particle smoke/fog.


And the color stuff is probably more about math issues; -might- be the result of a 8-bit framebuffer and lack of precision. It could look a lot better with the same palette, but without the clamping...

 

[nAo]

depth-dependent color correction (usually lowering the contrast)

They definitely have this.. afaik

 

[Nesh]

The one thing that's still missing is a sense of depth, right now you can't really distinguish between enemies close and far away from the player and the same goes for the buildings, too. Fog, layers of dust and/or smoke, whatever, but it needs more to better separate the foreground and background.

Apart from this, it looks really good.
Maybe the color depth is a bit lacking for all the post processing a bit, or there's some other reason for loosing the high luminance levels...

I can

 

[DieH@rd]

One more SD:

and 2 HD:
http://img151.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-25912/loc898/03584_kz_122_898lo.jpg
http://img169.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-27685/loc896/03590_kz2_122_896lo.jpg

 

[Laa-Yosh]

They definitely have this.. afaik

One of the reasons why I'm wondering about its apparent lack in the screenshots. Black levels should be raising steadily with distance...

 

[Laa-Yosh]

I can

Either you don't get what I'm talking about, or your using the size of the characters for that. The sense of depth is completely missing, the images look flat.

 

[nAo]

http://img151.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-25912/loc898/03584_kz_122_898lo.jpg
http://img169.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-27685/loc896/03590_kz2_122_896lo.jpg

links don't work

 

[nAo]

One of the reasons why I'm wondering about its apparent lack in the screenshots. Black levels should be raising steadily with distance...

I agree, but I have no doubts that it will be 'fixed', they have a very powerful post processing machinery at work!

 

[patsu]

The one thing that's still missing is a sense of depth, right now you can't really distinguish between enemies close and far away from the player and the same goes for the buildings, too. Fog, layers of dust and/or smoke, whatever, but it needs more to better separate the foreground and background.

I think that's because we are looking at a screenshot. It may be a non-issue in game. We react to motion and gun flare first. The nearest and largest moving "mass" is going to hold the player's attention for the next 1-2 seconds before either or both die.

Where in the world did the pictues come from ?

That dude in the third picture reminds me of the old Solid Snake.

 

[Deleted member 7537]

Real Time

CG

THIS IS SO F**NG INSANE

 

[Neb]

...THIS IS SO F**NG INSANE

Not to burst your bubble but the difference is huge, the above looks like a game and the below ss looks like CG!