Windows 10 [2014 - 2017]

[Rikimaru]

Posted this somewhere else, but I think this is worth sharing...

A guy installs the first version of MS-DOS, and he upgrades it to all versions of Windows until it reaches 10, and he checks if the programs and documents continue to run at every leap.

The PC, a world of almost infinite backwards compatibility.

A lot of devices and drivers do not work on next OS version though.

 

[orangpelupa]

A lot of devices and drivers do not work on next OS version though.

especially TWAIN Scanners.

on the other hand, windows seems have ridiculously good compatibility for soundcards and printers using the standard generic windows driver.

 

[hoom]

So the 'Creators' Update' (do I want this if I'm not a Creator? ) is coming officially from 11 April.

On Windows Update screen its got a link 'Good news! The Windows 10 Creators Update is on its way. Want to be one of the first to get it?' which goes to a page with this kinda odd text

Thank you for your interest in being one of the first to experience the Windows 10 Creators Update!
We’re finalizing the update and will be ready to share it with you soon. When the update is ready for your device, you’ll receive a notification asking you to review your privacy settings before downloading the update.

Now why would they be tying early access to privacy settings?

 

[entity279]

It's even better than early access to the download itself, without the ability to run it

 

[Ike Turner]

So the 'Creators' Update' (do I want this if I'm not a Creator? ) is coming officially from 11 April.

On Windows Update screen its got a link 'Good news! The Windows 10 Creators Update is on its way. Want to be one of the first to get it?' which goes to a page with this kinda odd text

Now why would they be tying early access to privacy settings?

What early access? The creators update is finalized. Whether you get it through the Windows Update roll-out starting April 11th or manually via the upgrader tool (Starting later today) is exactly the same; you will be prompted to review your privacy settings before installing it.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...ing-customers-choice-control-creators-update/

 

[hoom]

OK if its an option to turn off a bunch of crap at the start thats good

 

[Kaotik]

If you want to jump ahead, you can already download & install the RTM version from Windows Update servers:
en-US
Core x86 (Home)
Core x64 (Home)
Core N x86(Home N)
Core N x64(Home N)
Professional x86
Professional x64
Professional N x86
Professional N x64

https://s1.rg-adguard.net/dl/decrypt/decrypt-multi-release.7z There's tool to decrypt the .ESD and turn it into .ISO

 

[Ike Turner]

What early access? The creators update is finalized. Whether you get it through the Windows Update roll-out starting April 11th or manually via the upgrader tool (Starting later today) is exactly the same; you will be prompted to review your privacy settings before installing it.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...ing-customers-choice-control-creators-update/

Just posted a few minutes ago:

Windows 10 privacy journey continues: more transparency and controls for you

 

[Davros]

What!!!
Why is there no option "dont let apps send you adverts"

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Adverts can be embedded in free software as a means to monetise. You can't grumble against that. 'Relevant Ads' ensures these are better suited to your tastes rather than completely random. Not saying it's a good or bad thing, but it's understandable and common practice with the other OSes. If you don't want adverts, use the 'purchase/subscribe' option.

 

[Rikimaru]

Or do not use Windows Store.

 

[Ike Turner]

What!!!
Why is there no option "dont let apps send you adverts"

? Developers are free to implement ads in their apps since...forever? How can Microsoft prevent this? This toggle just enables app usage to be used to serve ads in apps that have ads in them (could be MSN apps, third party apps etc..) ..that's why free versions of apps usually have ads while paid versions don't...

Edit: Basically what Shifty just said

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Or do not use Windows Store.

It's not about Windows Store but any app you download using an ad service. This is an OS option to allow these apps, no matter where from, to use targeted ads, exactly like iOS and Android.

 

[Kyyla]

https://blogs.windows.com/buildinga...ktop-applications-windows-10-creators-update/

I bit too technical for me but I'm glad they are working on high DPI support.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

I look at the results of machine-learning based upscaling here and think that might be the way to go for legacy applications.

 

[Blazkowicz]

A given app will still try to target you for ads e.g. if you use an online recipes app and often look for ice cream and such, I bet they'll try to sell you little machines for making ice cream, whipping cream, and organic vanilla extract etc. rather than ads for steak sauce and mustard.

But with the setting off, there's less data points to know you're the same person looking up oil market price, movies about undead people and retirement plans.
If we compare with a web browser (ANY of them, unless you're doing a lot of filtering) I wonder if the "apps" possibly are a little bit more private.. but that's not saying much and I obviously don't want to condone anything.

This is a problem I have with video games even. So many of them are effectively "on-line services", kind of, as long with the distribution platforms. Long ago, you could play multiplayer and only exchange data between yourself and an independent game server, or between peers (the game hardly cared if you were using the internet, TCP lan, IPX lan or serial cable even). Nowadays it looks like even your single player usage is logged.

So anyway you'd need to buy off-line games if that still exists (or perhaps buy GoG games, firewall them), buy newspapers and magazines (have to make a little bit of money in your work or day to day life to buy them, e.g. you might need well over $100 in a month to buy paper media), buy DVD or use air TV broadcasts, then filter your web and even pay for email (w/ or w/o a domain name you have to pay for as well) as some geeks and professionals do.

 

[Rikimaru]

It's not about Windows Store but any app you download using an ad service. This is an OS option to allow these apps, no matter where from, to use targeted ads, exactly like iOS and Android.

I do not see Winapi functions for that.
Only WinRT.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

This is a problem I have with video games even...Nowadays it looks like even your single player usage is logged.

Developers like metrics, seeing what people are and aren't doing, and using that to tailor their game and improve retention, investment, etc.

 

[zed]

but it's understandable and common practice with the other OSes

What other OS's are those? I see ad's in browsers or apps but not really popping up in the OS, unless I'm missing them

https://blogs.windows.com/buildinga...ktop-applications-windows-10-creators-update/

I bit too technical for me but I'm glad they are working on high DPI support.

Nice one

 

[Silent_Buddha]

I do not see Winapi functions for that.
Only WinRT.

The setting obviously won't affect non-UWP ad supported applications (there's plenty of them out there). Those applications will continue to hook into 3rd party ad services (like Google, for example) in order to serve tailored ads in their Windows apps.

You can't turn off user tracking in those applications that use 3rd party tracking services (like Google ad services, for example), but you can turn them off in Windows for UWP applications. In both cases you can't disable ads without purchasing the application if the application developer put those ads there in the first place.

Unlike iOS and Android, Windows is for the most part an open platform. Hence, unlike iOS and Android, all ads don't go through the OS maker (Apple and Google in those cases). Do Apple and Google give the user an option to opt out of user tracking? I honestly have no idea as I don't use iOS or Android.

Regards,
SB