PGR4 got some comments when it got obvious photomode images. But I ve also seen many times seen such images in PGR4 being marveled but none said anything
How many times do you need to state that its photomode thought? Most of the marveling in the PGR4 thread is about geometry and other stuff that is there regardless of Photomodes.
I think you are confusing what people are marveling. People arent marveling the high quality of the resolution.
Some of the so called "PR shots" are taken directly from the game with only the aliasing reduced. Everything else is identical. These are what people see and like.
I got flamed + i got negative rep, for saying that aside from the obvious bullshot AA the game looks interesting.(refering to a 16x AA 3200p PR shot from R&C).
As for GT's replays there is only one person who was claming that they were identical and it was shown later that he was talking about GT's replays in general and not to GT:HD alone and he admitted the usage of some small effects. Well and he is usually ignored of course many times due to his bias which is known to everyone.
Actually, in the PGR4 thread, suddenly Arwin "forgot" that GT:HD has stuff like motion blur in the replay mode. (who according to himself is the biggest GT fanboy there is, this is also coincidentially the same person that tried to argue that Forza 2 handling feels like driving on Ice). Also, DJ12 "forgot" this.
Instead we were told a fictional theory from Arwin about why the GTHD replay is 30fps and not 60fps. Its obviously 30fps because they are doing things that are costing way much resources, in this case probably involving post processing and motion blur.
But even if they like what they see in replay modes its perfectly understandable. Why not?
There is nothing wrong with liking what you see. I LOVE how GT5 is coming along, forget KZ2, CoD4 and [insert hyped up graphics here] GT5 is in my book the best looking game ever. It does look amazing, but that shouldn't make it okay to flame everybody saying something is photomode\bullshot\etc when it is.
I did a runthrough the thread's posts after the GT5 trailer and I didnt see the fanboys you are talking about or people claming everything we see is real. So I think you are exaggerating a bit.
Beyond 3d moderators operates with purging of threads, meaning most of the flaming\trolling is deleted. If i could show you my reputation sheet, (shame we dont have rep system anymore) you would see that 5 out of a total of 7 negative reps came from pointing out obvious "this is not realtime" things in varius games (1 x360 game 2 PS3 games).
Also GT is more being attacked than PGR4 for its visuals as if there is nothing remarkable during gameplay and as if everything impressive is during the replay's added effects only.
My impression is that GT is being held in high regards by most people.
I think you are very unfair with people who are impressed with PS3 games in general. Why people are defending PS3 games so often is because PS3 games are equally attacked.
Yes, both plattforms get "attacked" the difference however is that even rational posters go all fanboy on you when you point out AA is at bullshot level in a PS3 game.
The biggest difference is however how its generally accepted to say that every game in the world that looks a tad worse on the PS3 than on the X360 is because of not enough development time for the PS3. And how Oblivion is better on the PS3 because of the cell (and not because they had 1 year with a finished build to tweak, wheras the X360 version had 9months total with a devkit including a Xenos and Xenon.).
Im a realist. I have no problem saying that the PS3 is the most powerful system overall. I have no problem saying that GT5 to me, is the most amazing game going by looks. I do however find it amusing that because the PS3 has a powerful CPU, the X360 in unable to run anything better (Even tho Xenos do offer quite a few things that the PS3 will struggle with).
Seriously, i got flamed to hell + pms by some random petrolheads because i said GT4 has to much grip. And i offfered real life examples (AND Arwin, the biggest GT fanboy in the world, going by his own words, agreed with me).
Im sure it happends on other platforms aswell, however i have never experienced it, and i have critizied plenty games on both sides for the same things. This is ofcourse my personal offtopic ranting, based on my personal experience. So you may of course be right that its equal the same way around
i haven't followed the Forza or PGR threads, but are you sure its not the same on both sides? i mean, are you sure there weren't any Forza/PGR fanboys saying that the photo mode shots were real-time?
In the PGR threads it was pointed out and nobody really tried to refute it. (Hell, for PGR3 Bizarre even said that this and that is a pre-render).
With forza 2 there is a slight difference however, because the game was promised to be 4x AA by Turn10. Every screenshot shown was 4x AA, and still officially, according to turn10, forza2 has 4x aa depending on load (which is total bullcrap, unless they count photomode).
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