The Annual E3 general discussion thread, 2015 edition
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GAHHH @ that Sony conference right in the middle of the god damn night! If I'd been a young man I'd just pulled an all-nighter, but now? No way, I'll wake up the day after, look up a link for the inevitable youtube upload...
With regards to Squeenix, will they ever make that demo they showed off at the PS4 unveiling into a proper game (the one with some girl being chased or maybe she was sneaking around, and a demon being summoned or something like that, it was so long ago I can't quite remember anymore what happened...), or will it simply remain a tech demo forever?
What about that knight game and the dragon, and all that fire? (Was Capcom though, I think? Hell, how about I wish for some god damn long term memory also in addition to being young again? Rofl...)
I have this rule that if I happen to wake up around when it starts, I might watch it. Nice thing is that these days you don't have to go up, just grab that tablet and watch. Otherwise, we'll see tomorrow. But yeah, much preferred it when it was around dinner, but I think that had a negative impact on journalists in the audience ...
Indeed. If I'm still awake when the conference starts, I'll be sure to put it on the tablet and watch it lying in bed. Should have me out in no time! 
Here is where we disagree though. I've always been glued to the screen for Sony conferences as far as I can remember, and if Oculus features in this one, then I'm pretty sure I will be again. And then I'm ridiculously excited for VR separately from all that.
EG is running a series of catch-up articles, it seems. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-15-the-e3-bulletin-monday
There's a 90 second 'Reader's Digest' of the Bethesda conference. I expect the same for other conferences, which should be a great way to get up to speed.
There's a 90 second 'Reader's Digest' of the Bethesda conference. I expect the same for other conferences, which should be a great way to get up to speed.
The past however many E3s, I've read about all the news the following morning and not been excited by any of it. Particular game announcements like Wild and The Tomorrow Children are recapped the following morning without the filler. The idea of staying up into the wee hours to hear a lot of game announcements doesn't excite me, especially when accompanied by lots of business talk and numbers. Counting sheep is supposedly a good way to fall asleep. Hearing PR numbers is even more effective IMO.
"accompanied by lots of business talk and numbers" - this has been grossly exaggerated in the past, imho. Primarily these conferences contain interesting stuff, looking at new tech, demonstrations of gameplay, etc. And this has only been improving (though I think Mm's translation of numbers to graphs created in LBP and triggered by Sackboy I think should have become a permanent fixture). There's lots of actual news in these conferences, and sure they are all made into separate articles eventually, but I've always enjoyed listening to the whole thing first hand.
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For me, any business or strategy talk is too much. I don't care how well Sony Music or Sony’s other satellite divisions are doing or what their P:E ratio is. If Sony insists on publicising these details and can’t just do in a written statement then please, for the love of Naughty Dog, shove all that stuff in the last 20 minutes. Suits, investors and analysts can tune in for that bit and gamers can tune out.
The biggest problem is bad pacing. Sony's conferences jump from cool new games, to investor talk, to cool games, to Gaikai, to cool game, to a Japanese dude trolling somethign do with Final Fantasy. It's like it has no structure at all. They'll spend 5 mins showing us something that we've seen loads of, then a 10 second glimpse of something everybody is desperate to see.
Sony are conference bastards. Seriously. I hate their conferences. And love them too. But mostly hate them.
Also there's plenty of disaparity between what's shown and what gets released, at least within the year of E3. 'Here's a cool new IP. Excited? It won't be out for another two or more years.' So there's little point getting excited over what's shown. There might be the most awesome, incredible game ever, the best game I'll ever play in my life, shown at E3 this year, but I won't get to touch for two years so I may as well ignore it until nearer the time.
That's how old cynics like me have learnt to cope with disappointment.
That's how old cynics like me have learnt to cope with disappointment.
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That's Agni's Philosophy and Square Enix stated that they would use the theme/setting for tech demos only. A bit like AMD's Ruby and Epic's Samaritan.
There's a very recent tech demo based on Agni's Philosophy appeared just a couple of months ago, during a Microsoft conference to show off DX12.
As for Final Fantasy VII, these guys are saying it's being made.
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I have my theories that I wont get into here, but they're only setting a higher level of performance for the other presentations, which likely means those will be failures. That is if they use the same level of expectations.
What constitutes a 'good presentation'? I think for many looking at E3, it needs to be something spectacular like new hardware. In all the other E3s, critique of the presentations has always been fair from what I can see (save PR misunderstandings), based on subjective feedback. People want to see games, want stuff that excites, and want (classy) spectacle. If a presentation is just a list of 'okay' games, it probably won't excite.
Looking back through replies in this thread, there's no anti-MS sentiment (save maybe one or two posters) and just a disappointment with the titles shown as not being of their tastes. eg. Where's QB? I expect the same from other presentations where tastes/hopes aren't met.
tl;dr - my cynicism is contagious and everyone's becoming jaded.
tl;dr - my cynicism is contagious and everyone's becoming jaded.
Yeah, the cynicism on here & the rest of the places I visit is really starting to grate on my nerves. It's like why do developers even try when they know everybody is going to crap on what they do anyway. Grrrr.
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I don't think that's quite fair. How many TV shows could be previewed months in advance to fabulous excitement? They don't even bother. Games are appreciated when people have them and play them and talk about them. Expecting the gaming populace to be running around with the excitement of 5 year olds over some video clips nad rudimentary offerings is expecting too much.Yeah, the cynicism on here & the rest of the places I visit is really starting to grate on my nerves. It's like why do developers even try when they know everybody is going to crap on what they do anyway. Grrrr.
Looking at ramr's list:
Halo - predictable. Could be a great game, but it's hardly got novelty factor.
new Controller - interesting
Rare x 2 - subjective (does one like Rare games?)
BC - interesting, but how many people are going to be really excited to play XB360 games?
MC hololens - nice showcase, but Hololens is a ways off and likely pricey and we still don't know if Hololens is coming to XB1!
Modding for fallout! - nice, not setting the world on light
Early access - nice service
What would be a megaton for most folk? 5+ new, non-hinted epic AAA titles with 2015 release dates. Announcing Hololens/OVR on XB1 for $250. Final Fantasy as a platform exclusive. Thought control.
Now for fans, this show could be great, but most people aren't fans, just gamers. So expect similarly muted responses for general game showcases as we all remember the excitement of things like hardware announcements and the totally unexpected and the spectacle of a big show in previous E3s.
Well let me rephrase - each of those things, with the exception of the controller and rare, are likely to be more impactful that Sony's entire conference (unless they have some crazy COD exclusivity) and Nintendo punted this year.
Obviously this kind of hyperbole is a question of taste. Don't fall into the trap of projecting your own tastes in games as universal facts.
We have two threads with the same name. One is the serious one and the other is fanboy bait. The titles should be changed accordingly.
B3D is the place where someone who does not identify themselves as a MS fan and don't own and never owned an Xbox (i.e. me) can discuss the MS conference like adults.
This is not the place for some of the comments of the original poster on here.
B3D is the place where someone who does not identify themselves as a MS fan and don't own and never owned an Xbox (i.e. me) can discuss the MS conference like adults.
This is not the place for some of the comments of the original poster on here.
FF is a megaton in 2015 ? THe games barely sell anymore. Why would it matter if its exclusive ?
THe e3 conference was good , some exciting stuff.
I'm sure most people will like the sony one more if they are into vr as Morpheus will be a big deal there and sony is the darling of the gaming world right now
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