Revolution & GameCube Co-Exist: 2005 Release?

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Revolution & GameCube Co-Exist

07/07/2004
By: Chris Leyton

Nintendo President suggests that the Revolution will join the GameCube and not replace it…

Speaking within the pages of Nintendo Dream, Satoru Iwata continued to further “muddy up the waters” by stating that the Revolution will co-exist with the GameCube; hinting that the Revolution will be a complimentary unit similar to how they are pitching the Nintendo DS against the GameBoy Advance.

Iwata-san went on to suggest that the Revolution *could* be launched within Japan by mid-2005, although the general consensus seems to be closer to a Christmas 2005 release in Japan.

This comes after comments suggesting that the Nintendo Revolution will offer a significantly different gaming experience to what we’ve had in the past, as Nintendo attempts to distance itself from relying on the traditional increases in technical performances and specifications when a new format is launched.

Quite what Nintendo are up to remains a mystery; however taking information from previous quotes seems to suggest that we should expect a new way to play games that don’t rely on joypads at the very least, whilst we’re expecting Nintendo to distance itself from the battle of specifications that Sony and Microsoft are gearing up for with the release of the Playstation3 and Xbox2.

We’ll have more tantalising details soon.

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GameCube to co-exist, a Revolution in 2005 and without Joypads? This better not be another "virtual boy"! :? Last chance saloon. :?:
 
Might be they're basically just mudding up the waters like the article suggested, spreading false rumors about their own stuff. Wouldn't really surprise me when it comes to Nintendo...
 
Guden Oden said:
Might be they're basically just mudding up the waters like the article suggested, spreading false rumors about their own stuff. Wouldn't really surprise me when it comes to Nintendo...

Mind games? They might be digging they're own graves...
 
I wouldn't mind a virtual boy done right lol. It would be neat that if you hook up to a monitor you could play games in high-def (most people have decent monitors) with good refresh rates, and if they have simple stereoscopic goggles like what you see in IMAX3d movies (which should be easy to implement if you hook up to a monitor, I think some video cards a few years back used a similar technology), I would be sold.
 
GwymWeepa said:
I wouldn't mind a virtual boy done right lol. It would be neat that if you hook up to a monitor you could play games in high-def (most people have decent monitors) with good refresh rates, and if they have simple stereoscopic goggles like what you see in IMAX3d movies (which should be easy to implement if you hook up to a monitor, I think some video cards a few years back used a similar technology), I would be sold.

Nintendo did experiment with VR technology a few years back, what with the 'power glove' and the 'virtual boy'. Maybe they feel the technology has matured enought to have another stint?
 
Jaws said:
GwymWeepa said:
I wouldn't mind a virtual boy done right lol. It would be neat that if you hook up to a monitor you could play games in high-def (most people have decent monitors) with good refresh rates, and if they have simple stereoscopic goggles like what you see in IMAX3d movies (which should be easy to implement if you hook up to a monitor, I think some video cards a few years back used a similar technology), I would be sold.

Nintendo did experiment with VR technology a few years back, what with the 'power glove' and the 'virtual boy'. Maybe they feel the technology has matured enought to have another stint?

Shoot, I'd just settle for good stereoscopic 3d, the technology I was referring to could be made relatively cheaply and easily, I think some Nvidia cards a while back by some manufacturer supported those sorts of goggles (they lighten and darken the lense in front of an eye in sync with an outputted image to a monitor, so an image is drawn intended for the left eye, and then its replaced by one intended for the right, the lense in front of the eye not intended to view the image is darkened).

Now, if they made goggles like the VB where the image has to be drawn by little monitors, well that's a whole other can of worms...if they can get it light enough, and the monitors have good color output and refresh fast enough, they can solve some of the issues with the VB (goggles too heavy to use without a stand, single color display that made you dizzy)...they could also perhaps put a gyro sensor or somehow have it interact with an eyetoy like device for real VR (where your perspective is changed with the movement of your head)...but man this is the more complicated route.
 
GwymWeepa said:
I wouldn't mind a virtual boy done right lol. It would be neat that if you hook up to a monitor you could play games in high-def (most people have decent monitors) with good refresh rates, and if they have simple stereoscopic goggles like what you see in IMAX3d movies (which should be easy to implement if you hook up to a monitor, I think some video cards a few years back used a similar technology), I would be sold.

it is hardly a new gameplay experience, and not very massmarket, which is a concern for Nintendo according their declarations for expanding the market
 
wazoo said:
GwymWeepa said:
I wouldn't mind a virtual boy done right lol. It would be neat that if you hook up to a monitor you could play games in high-def (most people have decent monitors) with good refresh rates, and if they have simple stereoscopic goggles like what you see in IMAX3d movies (which should be easy to implement if you hook up to a monitor, I think some video cards a few years back used a similar technology), I would be sold.

it is hardly a new gameplay experience, and not very massmarket, which is a concern for Nintendo according their declarations for expanding the market

I'd rather have that than some silly gimmick no one would care about, plenty of people have monitors and such and at least a few million people will take advantage of being able to view their favorite games 3d...having said that, oh its unlikely alright, its just what I wish they'd do, because I'm selfish lol :p
 
we've seen the patents on Sony's virtual glove controller thingy, maybe Nintendo is going down a similar path, or an equally different path, from standard control pads.
 
Guden Oden said:
Might be they're basically just mudding up the waters like the article suggested, spreading false rumors about their own stuff. Wouldn't really surprise me when it comes to Nintendo...

I think you're right. This is a red herring. Xbox 2 and Revolution have the same parents and in all likelihood the same DNA ... :rolleyes:
 
GwymWeepa said:
I wouldn't mind a virtual boy done right lol. It would be neat that if you hook up to a monitor you could play games in high-def (most people have decent monitors) with good refresh rates, and if they have simple stereoscopic goggles like what you see in IMAX3d movies (which should be easy to implement if you hook up to a monitor, I think some video cards a few years back used a similar technology), I would be sold.

Thoses googles will need very high refresh rate monitors... or else you'll get a headache very fast (the steroscopic effect is obtained by the occlusion of the right et left "eye" one after the other, and therefore it halves the refresh rate of the screen (a 60Hz screen will become a 30hz "3d" screen, etc).
With others words, if they do that, they'll pull another Virtual boy... :?

Anyway, about the main topic, i think the great reporter from Totalvideogames is reading too much into iwata words, Iwata is simply saying that they will "try" to keep the NGC on the market à la PSone, and that Revolution will not be about high spec, and it will try to innovate with new ideas... That's all i'm reading personaly.
 
Megadrive1988 said:
we've seen the patents on Sony's virtual glove controller thingy, maybe Nintendo is going down a similar path, or an equally different path, from standard control pads.
I'm sure they'll both experiment. The EyeToy presents its own interesting way (and I believe there have been comments from Nintendo talking about their own similar peripheral). It certainly fills the statement: "a new way to play games that don?t rely on joypads." The question is, will it become a core trait of a new console? Offhand, I can't see it. I can certainly see new concepts being pushed alongside, but if out-of-hand rejecting of the mainstream is done to really push for "revolutionary ideas" like that, they'll find themselves walking off a cliff.
 
cthellis42 said:
It certainly fills the statement: "a new way to play games that don?t rely on joypads."

Actually this statement is made by the Totalvideogames.com great reporter, he "expect" that from "suggestions" made from previous quotes, that some games could be played without joypad.

Future Pulitzer winner said:
however taking information from previous quotes seems to suggest that we should expect a new way to play games that don’t rely on joypads at the very least
 
Vysez said:
GwymWeepa said:
I wouldn't mind a virtual boy done right lol. It would be neat that if you hook up to a monitor you could play games in high-def (most people have decent monitors) with good refresh rates, and if they have simple stereoscopic goggles like what you see in IMAX3d movies (which should be easy to implement if you hook up to a monitor, I think some video cards a few years back used a similar technology), I would be sold.

Thoses googles will need very high refresh rate monitors... or else you'll get a headache very fast (the steroscopic effect is obtained by the occlusion of the right et left "eye" one after the other, and therefore it halves the refresh rate of the screen (a 60Hz screen will become a 30hz "3d" screen, etc).
With others words, if they do that, they'll pull another Virtual boy... :?

Anyway, about the main topic, i think the great reporter from Totalvideogames is reading too much into iwata words, Iwata is simply saying that they will "try" to keep the NGC on the market à la PSone, and that Revolution will not be about high spec, and it will try to innovate with new ideas... That's all i'm reading personaly.

I know, look at the second part of my post, what you quoted is assuming simple goggles that simply darken one eye or the other depending on the imagine displayed on the computer monitor, it would be easy to have a high refresh. The second part of the post is concerned with the second solution to stereoscopic 3d, which is a headset with its own little monitors.
 
Vysez said:
Actually this statement is made by the Totalvideogames.com great reporter, he "expect" that from "suggestions" made from previous quotes, that some games could be played without joypad.
...because I was taking the comment at face value as an official Nintendo release? :p All I said was that the EyeToy would fill that statement just as much as a whole system that is ONLY controlled by, like, eyebrow motion. Hence why I wouldn't put anything into comments like that, because it's pretty meaningless.
 
I could see something like this.....

Gamecube exists.
Revolution can use gamecube controllers and play gamecube games, but also has a built in camera for game play.
Nintendo will hype up how the revolution has a camera, and create a bunch of games that use it.
Nintendo will continue to create gamecube games with the idea that they can be sold on both systems, at least until both systems fail and nintendo goes bankrupt.
 
Nitendo updated recentely an patente that the controler my be sensitive to the direction or movement or something like that, I dont remenber very well, I saw that in ign ( I think )...
 
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