We also have to keep in mind that the install base restarts at zero. There's no guarantee this device will inherit the NDS's late success. It's way too early to assume a gobsmacking user base within the first year, which might justify projects like this easily.
Nintendo 3DS Announced
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Oh God, here we go again.
Rein stated that they can't make a formal confirmation until they have devkits, which they don't since nobody sent them any. They admitted that they are going by from what "they could tell", which is to say not much.
I don't think he's being mislead, such that the 3DS devkits are going to reveal a lot more power than expected. We know the 2 CPUs and GPU, so it's a fairly well informed position, just as Wii was.
tongue_of_colicab
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Than again, If capcom can get MT running on the 3DS, than why wouldn't UE3 run on the 3DS?
And we know it's 64 MB RAM, probably the most damning/hard limiting stat. UE3 seems to like 512MB RAM as that's the consoles and that's when they started getting into phones, though I imagine they could make do with less.
Imagine porting UE3 to 64MB Xbox 1?
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We don't know for definite exactly what the CPU's are as no exact model was mentioned, aren't their custom ARM11 based CPU's out their that are more powerful then the standard version? (its probably just a basic ARM11 but we can't be sure yet). Also PICA200 can come in a few variations (especially the number of vertex shaders included). We do know feature set of course
Some of the quotes from devs have actually mentioned surprise at the power of the device compared to what they'd expected from the initial specs. Though I'd expect Epic's comments to mostly center around OpenGL ES 2.0 pixel shading.
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Isn't the max amount of ram used by an Iphone app 128MB though? Probably less if it has to work on 3GS.
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Nintendo Emphasize Focus On Nintendo 3DS Online Services:
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/10/08/nintendo-emphasize-focus-on-nintendo-3ds-online-services/
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/10/08/nintendo-emphasize-focus-on-nintendo-3ds-online-services/
Yeah I know. However, I'd still be interested to know the answer to my question - not necessarily directly under the sun, just outside, either during a cloudy day / in a shadow would be fine for me.
There's only so much you variation you can get though. Single core ARM11 at 266 and 133 MHz. How much extra oomph can you get? Do we really think Nintendo would fit some awesome SIMD arrays on the end?
64MBs RAM is going to be a limit, though we don't know what speed it runs at. The PICA is more of a question mark as, AFAIK, it's more a tailor made tech where you can add features from a selection. But still, we have the architecture ans spec sheets, and reportedly a very low clockspeed for it. There's enough there to evaluate how well an engine like UE3 would fit, and that'd only be wrong if there's been a catastrophic misreporting, such as the GPU running at 400MHz instead of 133 MHz.My comment wasn't so much about how a variation in CPU/GPU would effect Epic, as I assume they're more interested in the lack of ES 2.0 pixel shaders. I doubt they looked much further into it then that somehow.. I was just saying their could be more to the CPU/GPU then the IGN info suggests.
Also part of my post was a genuine question that I'd be interested to hear the answer too. What custom ARMv6 CPU's are out there (Marvell?) and how much faster are they then a standard ARM11 CPU? Obviously I don't think Nintendo have "fitted some awesome SIMD arrays on the end".. I was referring to the possibility that they may have used an already built custom ARMv6 design, which could easily be reported as simply an ARM11 CPU. Like I said, its probably just a standard ARM11, but who knows.
Also part of my post was a genuine question that I'd be interested to hear the answer too. What custom ARMv6 CPU's are out there (Marvell?) and how much faster are they then a standard ARM11 CPU? Obviously I don't think Nintendo have "fitted some awesome SIMD arrays on the end"..
I was referring to the possibility that they may have used an already built custom ARMv6 design, which could easily be reported as simply an ARM11 CPU. Like I said, its probably just a standard ARM11, but who knows.
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Silent_Buddha
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Doubtful unless they had a transflective or reflective screen, and screens that can do that and feature color + response times suitable for gaming are still very much in their infancy.
Regards,
SB
Source? IGN again?
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I don't know about 3DS but I checked my DS outdoor today (It's sunny). It's hard to see sometimes but better than I expected; similar to iPhone. Since you have a DS yourself. You can check it out too.
Some games should be playable under shadow, as long as there is no glare.
It's Nintendo. It's a safe assumption.
It was a safe assumption that the PS3, after the success of the PS1 and even greater success of PS2, would come flying out of the blocks to very quickly retain their No1 console position for the 3rd generation running.
I assumed it wouldn't, because everyone would have lost confidence after DS (which I also assumed would outsell PSP based solely on the Nintendo logo)
Would you greenlight a 5M$ 3DS game for Fall 2011 release, "safely assuming" that the userbase will be big enough to absorb 700k+ copies? Because I don't think you should. Not yet.
