Playstation 3: Hardware Info and Price

Synergy34 said:
Not sure if anyone caught this or not, but I was watching G4's coverage and when that Kevin dude was rambling off the lack of features in the 500 dollar SKU, he said something like "No WiFi, No mem card reader, and only one HDMI"

Any chance the Sony product sheet is just plain wrong?

God I hope so.

Because I swear it looked like a typo when I first read it. I thought it meant +1 HDMI on the expensive version. Bringing the total up to 2.

But then if it really was an error. You would think Sony would have corrected their error by now.
 
I hope so to, I'm not interested in WiFi or the Mem card readers, I can live without them, but I want my HDMI. It's almost like they left it out just to personally piss me off. :p
 
expletive said:
Well if youve spent thousands on an HDTV to play console games in HD, then i agree, whats another couple hundred.

However, there are people the bought an HDTV to mainly watch HDTV programming (i.e. sports, network TV, movies on cable/satellite, etc) or because they were due for a new TV anyway. For those people, a game console is a discreet purchase not necessarily linked to an HDTV purchase. And for those people, the $100, $200, $300 more for the PS3 isnt a no brainer becuase theyre already in this deep with a $3k HDTV. The fact that theres a cheaper alternative to play HD games on their new TV, well thats another discussion entirely.

For the foreseeable future, a next-gen console will be one of the best sources of HDTV content. Especially one which plays 1080p movies.
 
To me the HDMI is the dealbreaker between the two SKU's.
Now I don't even consider the cheaper one, even though I think I could do with 20GB HDD, no memoryslots and a bit duller case coloring.
Oh, and the Wi-Fi too, I need it also.
So it's two deal breakers really, the HDMI and Wi-Fi.
They both are featurees that will be fully used by me.
Glad I've been saving to re-equip my home thater, the PS3 still fits in the budget (just).
 
wco81 said:
If you're interested in getting the PS3 at all, you might as well get one at launch.

You figure at best, they cut $100-150 and the earliest they would do it would be about a year after launch. Will there be enough launch games worth the $100-150 extra over the first year? Maybe, maybe not. If you have an HDTV, you will get high-def movies out of it.

But with so many big games slated for the fall/Xmas season of 2007, what is the likelihood of a price cut, unless Sony is having big problems moving those first 6 or first 10 million consoles?

So would there be enough entertainment value to be had in the first year to justify not waiting for a $100-150, even $200 cut? Sure why not? You could get hit by a car before that first price cut.

I'm not talking about students on limited budgets. I'm talking about people who've spent thousands on HDTVs and spend hundreds on video cards alone. You really going to wait a year or more to save $100-200?
people are waiting a year for PS3 instead of buying a 360 and completely forgoing Next Gen until then. I don't see what the difference is. they could have bought a 360 and sold it for $100 loss when the PS3 came out and enjoyed that entertainment for a year.
 
scooby_dooby said:
I'm sure that all you're going to have to do is buy a $50 hdmi cable on top of the $500 version and you're good to go.
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you mean the $600 version.
Or was that not a reply to my post?
 
Kind of interesting that Sony wants to bring gaming into the high end.
One of the things that caused everyone to own a playstation was the relatively low price of entry. People play their playstations on their 20 year old tvs hooked up via an RF connection and would never dream of buying anything that looks like an expensive piece of home theater equipment, but I guess that's what Sony wants to sell.
Weren't there reports about an internal war within Sony over this? One group wanted to sell cheap and take serious losses just to get the format out there, while the other wanted to position the Playstation brand as a high end kit? Guess we know which side won, it'll be interesting if this change will give sony record profits, or destroy something that has worked so well for the past decade.
 
Price

NucNavST3 said:
I'm sorry did you just suggest that the hd-dvd add-on for the 360 will be $500, or were you talking about a stand alone HD-DVD?

That is the price my friend who says PS3 ($499-599) is "too expensive" has paid for stand-alone HD-DVD player. He has already paid $500 for HD-DVD and $399 for Xbox360 so total he has spend is $899 but if he waited he can have had better system for much less.
 
I imagine there was a 'war', or rather a conflict of interests. There always is, just like there ws with XB360. Different executives have different ideas of products and each tries to push their ideas through. Unless you have an aggressive, uncompromising monoarchy/dictatorship which conforms to the head's ultimate designs. I expect the possibilties for PS3 were bandied around and the result was a compromise of sorts. We really need someone to write a book about it and give us the inside scoop!
 
rabidrabbit said:
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you mean the $600 version.
Or was that not a reply to my post?

I think he meant that the Expensive version comes with HDMi-cable and that the cheaper one will have the output, but not the cable, or that's what I figured he meant, I'm not sure if something is indicating on that direction or not though.
 
wco81 said:
For the foreseeable future, a next-gen console will be one of the best sources of HDTV content. Especially one which plays 1080p movies.

I guess it depends what country youre talking about. In the US, the best source of HD content is cable or satellite with HD. Most people want to watch the NFL, Lost, 24, or American Idol in HD, not play Fight Night. I dont know about other countries where HD content may be more difficult to come by but in the US, quite bit is available to a lot of people.
 
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Dr Evil said:
I think he meant that the Expensive version comes with HDMi-cable and that the cheaper one will have the output, but not the cable, or that's what I figured he meant, I'm not sure if something is indicating on that direction or not though.

there is no HDMI output on the $500 version, unless some big news story broke since yesterday :p
 
Tap In said:
yes, he could have just waited for the X360 HD DVD add on. ;)


That add-on may not have HDMI so it's subject to downrezzing.

And the Toshiba player takes 90 seconds to play a disc.
 
Tap In said:
there is no HDMI output on the $500 version, unless some big news story broke since yesterday :p

Yes that's how I understood it as well, I was just explaining to rapidrabbit what I thought Scooby_dooby meant.
 
Tap In said:
check pic of $500 version
Is the AV output HDMI?
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1036/ps3btanshinlow9kx.jpg

the $600 version pic (not shown here) shows an HDMI tag on it

I've seen the pic, but what good reason is there to believe sony will not have an HDMI cable that can plugs into the multi-AV out?

Of course they will. It's a potential revenue source, and a means to recoup some initial hardware losses. I would be absolutely shocked if you can't buy an HDMI cable for the $500 ps3. THe $600 model just has an 'extra' HDMI port, or..at least that's my theory.
 
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