Playstation 3: Hardware Info and Price
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one said:Some downgrades
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509ae.pdf
20GB HDD SKU - no HDMI, no memory card, no WiFi
60GB HDD SKU - 1 HDMI
USB x 4
BD-ROM - 2x
DVD - 8x
I got a question, by no HDMI, Mem card and WiFi does this mean that the $500 version won't come with those thing. OR does it mean that it won't support those thing at all
Can some one here clear this up for me?
I actually don't mind the extra $100.00 for the premium model...it will make it that much easier to find when I want to pick one up on launch day.
I see what Sony is trying to do here. They are taking the model they used for their portable platform, PSP, and applying it to the console/media hub which is PS3. At first, many doubted Sony's ability to push such an expensive, feature-heavy portable device...but they've sold about 13 million in a little over a year.
Not too bad.
Many love to hate Sony (like they love to hate the Yankees in baseball)...but Sony is taking consoles in a whole new direction and, not so ironically, many people that nay-say and ill-say Sony will be buying themselves a PS3. The X360 is an extender of a true media device, while PS3 is a true media device from the get-go...not just an add-on. That is what Sony is pushing as the differentiating feature. And in the days where people spend $300-$500 on an mp3 player (Ipod anyone?), I think the PS3 will maintain an advantage in this generation's console race without a doubt.
Aside from that, I think everyone put on a good showing in the past 2 days. Alot of good stuff to look forward to from all 3 competitors.
I see what Sony is trying to do here. They are taking the model they used for their portable platform, PSP, and applying it to the console/media hub which is PS3. At first, many doubted Sony's ability to push such an expensive, feature-heavy portable device...but they've sold about 13 million in a little over a year.
Not too bad.
Many love to hate Sony (like they love to hate the Yankees in baseball)...but Sony is taking consoles in a whole new direction and, not so ironically, many people that nay-say and ill-say Sony will be buying themselves a PS3. The X360 is an extender of a true media device, while PS3 is a true media device from the get-go...not just an add-on. That is what Sony is pushing as the differentiating feature. And in the days where people spend $300-$500 on an mp3 player (Ipod anyone?), I think the PS3 will maintain an advantage in this generation's console race without a doubt.
Aside from that, I think everyone put on a good showing in the past 2 days. Alot of good stuff to look forward to from all 3 competitors.
I wouldn't compare the PS3 to Bang & Olufsen (which BTW, you can get better performance for the same money but not as elegantly packaged).
The iPod comparison might work. But iPods really aren't that more than Creatives or iRivers or Sonys. In fact, with the NAND deal with Samsung, the Nano is fairly competitive price-wise.
But the iPods parents buy for children are around $200 average. Meanwhile, the only people buying B&O gear are affluent adults buying for themselves.
Will parents buy such a large and complex piece of equipment for the children's bedroom? Without an HDTV (and I'm a big believer that HDTV adoption will help next-gen console and HD-DVD or Blu-Ray adoption), there's no reason to buy a PS3 for the kid's bedroom.
The iPod comparison might work. But iPods really aren't that more than Creatives or iRivers or Sonys. In fact, with the NAND deal with Samsung, the Nano is fairly competitive price-wise.
But the iPods parents buy for children are around $200 average. Meanwhile, the only people buying B&O gear are affluent adults buying for themselves.
Will parents buy such a large and complex piece of equipment for the children's bedroom? Without an HDTV (and I'm a big believer that HDTV adoption will help next-gen console and HD-DVD or Blu-Ray adoption), there's no reason to buy a PS3 for the kid's bedroom.
patsu said:
Since free online gaming is promised, they would also likely not deviate from their current (PS2) model of online gaming, with the Socom series being the prime example. It is free to play, isn't it? All the necessary components for hi-def PVR is also there. Finally, remote access to home media should be akin to what you have been able to do on PCs - as long as your PS3 has an IP address, the process should be identical.
onanie said:
If they are indeed promised...
E3 would be the perfect platform to consolidate and communicate all these incredible values, even if they can't demo all. They should have done a few segments on them. Then let the imagination run free. We wouldn't see this "expensive" discussions.
patsu said:
Ultimately "expensive" is a subjective thing, and so is the amount of "convincing otherwise" that you need, and what you got out of the presentation. However, many of the advocates for the "expensive" discussion, despite the promises of value, would readily take shots at sony's promise keeping ability as justification for their discussion.
It's a bonus which happens to account for much if not all of the price premium Sony is attempting to command.
Anyways, for this Xmas season, stand-alone Blu-Ray players won't come down that much.
It could be the price of the PS3 is partly dictated by the desire to not antagonize the other Blu-Ray hardware manufacturers. Not to mention Sony's own consumer electronics division which will also have a player which will cost $1000 or more.
Anyways, for this Xmas season, stand-alone Blu-Ray players won't come down that much.
It could be the price of the PS3 is partly dictated by the desire to not antagonize the other Blu-Ray hardware manufacturers. Not to mention Sony's own consumer electronics division which will also have a player which will cost $1000 or more.
Where are people getting the PVR nonsense from?
I don't recall Sony ever actually mentioning that... PSM or one of those cheeseball magazines did, iirc.
PVR is rather useless or, more correctly, impractical on PS3 (especially when you're talking 20 and 60gb drives -- decent quality HD will take ~5gb an hour)... forgetting the fact that there are seemingly no video *inputs* (or a tuner either -- it has to have at least one of those), I don't see how this could have feasibly gotten past the wtf-that-doesnt-even-make-sense alarms.
I don't recall Sony ever actually mentioning that... PSM or one of those cheeseball magazines did, iirc.
PVR is rather useless or, more correctly, impractical on PS3 (especially when you're talking 20 and 60gb drives -- decent quality HD will take ~5gb an hour)... forgetting the fact that there are seemingly no video *inputs* (or a tuner either -- it has to have at least one of those), I don't see how this could have feasibly gotten past the wtf-that-doesnt-even-make-sense alarms.
There is just so much good stuff coming for the 360 (and Wii looks cool!) over the next year and PS3 does not look (yet) as if it will distinguish itself (decidedly) over the 360 in games. (Although what's been shown is admitedly amazing!)
So until the library fills with several titles on my must have list, i can not justify this type of pricing right now.
I will eventually get one at a lower price point but no early adoption for me on this one.
Not that I expect to be able to get my hands on one unitil next feb/March even if I wanted to.
I think they will assuredly sell all they can make, even at that price. (for a while anyway)
So until the library fills with several titles on my must have list, i can not justify this type of pricing right now.
I will eventually get one at a lower price point but no early adoption for me on this one.
Not that I expect to be able to get my hands on one unitil next feb/March even if I wanted to.
I think they will assuredly sell all they can make, even at that price. (for a while anyway)
If you're interested in getting the PS3 at all, you might as well get one at launch.
You figure at best, they cut $100-150 and the earliest they would do it would be about a year after launch. Will there be enough launch games worth the $100-150 extra over the first year? Maybe, maybe not. If you have an HDTV, you will get high-def movies out of it.
But with so many big games slated for the fall/Xmas season of 2007, what is the likelihood of a price cut, unless Sony is having big problems moving those first 6 or first 10 million consoles?
So would there be enough entertainment value to be had in the first year to justify not waiting for a $100-150, even $200 cut? Sure why not? You could get hit by a car before that first price cut.
I'm not talking about students on limited budgets. I'm talking about people who've spent thousands on HDTVs and spend hundreds on video cards alone. You really going to wait a year or more to save $100-200?
You figure at best, they cut $100-150 and the earliest they would do it would be about a year after launch. Will there be enough launch games worth the $100-150 extra over the first year? Maybe, maybe not. If you have an HDTV, you will get high-def movies out of it.
But with so many big games slated for the fall/Xmas season of 2007, what is the likelihood of a price cut, unless Sony is having big problems moving those first 6 or first 10 million consoles?
So would there be enough entertainment value to be had in the first year to justify not waiting for a $100-150, even $200 cut? Sure why not? You could get hit by a car before that first price cut.
I'm not talking about students on limited budgets. I'm talking about people who've spent thousands on HDTVs and spend hundreds on video cards alone. You really going to wait a year or more to save $100-200?
Well if youve spent thousands on an HDTV to play console games in HD, then i agree, whats another couple hundred.
However, there are people the bought an HDTV to mainly watch HDTV programming (i.e. sports, network TV, movies on cable/satellite, etc) or because they were due for a new TV anyway. For those people, a game console is a discreet purchase not necessarily linked to an HDTV purchase. And for those people, the $100, $200, $300 more for the PS3 isnt a no brainer becuase theyre already in this deep with a $3k HDTV. The fact that theres a cheaper alternative to play HD games on their new TV, well thats another discussion entirely.
However, there are people the bought an HDTV to mainly watch HDTV programming (i.e. sports, network TV, movies on cable/satellite, etc) or because they were due for a new TV anyway. For those people, a game console is a discreet purchase not necessarily linked to an HDTV purchase. And for those people, the $100, $200, $300 more for the PS3 isnt a no brainer becuase theyre already in this deep with a $3k HDTV. The fact that theres a cheaper alternative to play HD games on their new TV, well thats another discussion entirely.
Not sure if anyone caught this or not, but I was watching G4's coverage and when that Kevin dude was rambling off the lack of features in the 500 dollar SKU, he said something like "No WiFi, No mem card reader, and only one HDMI"
Any chance the Sony product sheet is just plain wrong?
Any chance the Sony product sheet is just plain wrong?