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is it just me or does the fan in that video look a lot like what you'd see in a latptop? will that be sufficient?
Middle Generation Console Upgrade Discussion [Scorpio, 4Pro]
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is it just me or does the fan in that video look a lot like what you'd see in a latptop? will that be sufficient?
laptop fans are like 3-5mm tall. GPU fans are about 2cm tall, with much larger blades in terms of radius. Blower fans on GPU are the norm (I still prefer axial for noise reduction), just wondering if they will share the PSU cooling with it as well.
Didn't really notice that before, that'll make for a smaller machine (but maybe a bit louder as a result?). I'm definitely hoping for a 400 price tag, even if I don't end up getting one, I think it'll be really good for the market, Sony will have to drop prices on the pro and base model. That's only good for developers, and the price of entry for Scorpio will be very reasonable, heck at 400 it'll be very good vfm.
These specs are probably just speculation parading as fact, but that $549 price rumor is insane.
$399 : MS could get back in the game, more perf per dollar than PS4 Pro is attractive to some gamers.
$499 : Status Quo, limited impact on market share. Upgraders happy. Solidifies the base in US/UK.
$549 : WTF? Mid-range PC gamers migration? Is that a market?
maybe with hevc encoding they'll support external remote game streaming, maybe even 720p60 to phones.
I'm aware that their worried about ui on such small screens etc, just leave that to the gamer if they are ok with it.
very much a niche market, but another selling point, check box that could add up to a gamer wether they end up using it or not.
I'm aware that their worried about ui on such small screens etc, just leave that to the gamer if they are ok with it.
very much a niche market, but another selling point, check box that could add up to a gamer wether they end up using it or not.
hopefully that's an unfounded rumour. I expect it sells at 400$, 500$ is a bit tad high, but you never know... How little does happiness last in the house of the poor.
So PS4 Pro doubled PS4 TFLOPs and Scorpio is going to triple it.
The next console should what, at least double the PS4 Pro, if not hit 10 TFLOP? Or maybe 12 TFLOPs?
When in AMD's roadmap are they going to be able to deliver an APU which can produce that level and go into a $400 console?
2020? 2022?
The next console should what, at least double the PS4 Pro, if not hit 10 TFLOP? Or maybe 12 TFLOPs?
When in AMD's roadmap are they going to be able to deliver an APU which can produce that level and go into a $400 console?
2020? 2022?
sure $550 would be at the high end of the price bracket.
but for early adopters etc, who they could milk for a while they may be able to sell enough to meet or exceed projections.
If i was going to talk top end price I'd probably say $500 at launch, then 6 < months later around $450, with 'sales' at just over $400 at 12 months. Probably can drop prices quick like that by releasing with 2tb, then 1tb later. Bit like the x1s launch.
At those prices difference would need to be visible to everyone but the clinically blind though.
It's possible that in 2019-2020 a 10-12 tflop gpu in a console will be viable(an overclocked 1080ti is just around 14-15 tflops right now). But that depends on many factors and manufacturing yields and most importantly perf/watt.
Agreed, this one is tough though. If the GPU and CPU were separated however, I think the chances are better you'd seen it sooner than later.
Well at least now AMD can offer a competitive GPU and CPU separately
So no Intel/Nvidia, Intel/AMD shenanigans for Sony/MS to worry about.I'm thinking there's a strong possibility of $450 being the price-point.
Silent_Buddha
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They did announce VR is coming to Project Scorpio in 2018 at GDC. This was in their announcement for their mixed reality development kit.
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...-dev-kits-shipping-month/#Y32x9Fo24XUS4LdH.97
So, presumably apps/games developed with that will potentially be usable on Project Scorpio. However, that doesn't preclude the possibility that VR games developed prior to the release of that development kit appearing on Project Scorpio as no other information has been released. It's possible that they've been working with VR developers to get games ported Project Scorpio. Or for in development games, to have Project Scorpio added to development of the game.
The wording strongly implies 2018, however, although in the context of what is being discussed, it does leave open a slight possibility for VR at launch. Hopefully we'll get more details at E3.
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That depends entirely on what Sony is going to try to accomplish with PS5. I'm still not sure of Sony's strategy outside of 4Pro. They've been quiet so it's hard to guess. I think we can see 3-4 year console releases as the norm with MS, with some expectation that your console should stay in service for at least 6-7 years.
Hitting 10 TF would be a good milestone but it would only be 2.5 times the PS4 Pro, though 5X the PS4.
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