Not sure I understand the difference?
Microsoft Xbox Reveal Event - May 21, 2013
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Not sure I understand the difference?
Pricing will be, and always is, key. We'll see what happens. Doesn't seem like a cheap box. They did a bunch of custom silicon, and Kinect is a hard price to predict. This time it's pretty much in-house, so they aren't paying PrimeSense for the camera tech anymore. Developing their own CMOS couldn't have been cheap though. They did buy a Time of Flight company, so how much of that cost was already sunk, I don't know. It'll be interesting, for sure.
dragonelite
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Living room is where you are with family or when you have visitors and watch tv there.
With tv screen i mean the screens in your bedroom kitchens or batcave
Gradthrawn
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Living room is where you are with family or when you have visitors and watch tv there.
With tv screen i mean the screens in your bedroom kitchens or batcave
They already do that quite splendidly with one of their other products. Its Windows Media Center (with a Centon 4 tuner card or whatever digital service you want). You just need a Media Center Extender for the target TVs which the XBO will be. Right Microsoft? The One is an MCE, RIGHT? RIGHT?!?
Living room is where you are with family or when you have visitors and watch tv there.
With tv screen i mean the screens in your bedroom kitchens or batcave
Yes, but when they say, "Take the living room" they mean the television. They say living room because that's where people keep their tv. What difference does it make if the tv is in your bedroom, or a den?
I hope so, i think you and I are the last two using it. They'd have to re-write the app for x86 I suppose?
After e3 you will still be mad that you have to wait another 3-4 months before you actually get real game play in your hands.
That's really all it comes down to , people want the system now and not a few months from now. Anything other than having the system isn't going to fill that hunger.
I use it also. I don't think they'd have to rewrite it. MEdia center exits on x86 processors so they would just have to put it in the system which I hope they do
Gradthrawn
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Not necessarily. The original Xbox was an extender as well, if I recall correctly. So they must have some iteration of the Extender compiled for x86. I haven't taken a close look at the MCX (Media Center Extender platform) to determine how hardware agnostic it is. To be honest, based mostly on gut feeling, I suspect if they don't bring MCE functionality to the One it will be primarily for political reasons (business politics). They might feel being an MCE could undermine some of their other objectives or messaging. Although, combining MCE with the snap functionality along with the same support in Hulu and Netflix would be a superb combo, IMO.
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Holy crap there's 3 of us here!
By the way, here's one of the last 3rd party MCE's I can find in case any of you guys were interested. At that price though, I'd just as well get 360S instead. But, that Echo has a much smaller footprint and power draw.Not necessarily. The original Xbox was an extender as well, if I recall correctly. So they must have some iteration of the Extender compiled for x86. I haven't taken a close look at the MCX (Media Center Extender platform) to determine how hardware agnostic it is. To be honest, based mostly on gut feeling, I suspect if they don't bring MCE functionality to the One it will be primarily for political reasons (business politics). They might feel being an MCE could undermine some of their other objectives or messaging. Although, combining MCE with the snap functionality along with the same support in Hulu and Netflix would be a superb combo, IMO.
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Holy crap there's 3 of us here!
The original Xbox was not an extender however the application side of the One is a Win8 kernel, so there is media center code of some sort for that platform. However, Win8 does not have extender functionality, only the full blown MC interface so not sure how different it is or how much development would be required to rework it into an extender. Would be nice if they could just natively support networked Cablecard tuners like the Ceton and the HD Homerun Prime.
All that said, it will be interesting to see if the One can command certain cable boxes to record shows, schedule season passes, etc. GTV has a special agreement with dish at one point where they had that level of connectivity with their boxes.
I really hope it is, I am heavily invested into a 360 ecosystem largely for this reason. Would love to see an update to MCE, not that much needs improving. I can see the guides are already very similar, but X1 follows the metro paradigm.
Since we still watch TV in our house I really do hope MCE is updated to work with X1, voice would be awesome.
Edit: @expletive - I am using Win8 with other devices acting as an extender?
I have a feeling that they will try to make up a lot of the cost through the fees for using the features.
So the equivalent of XBL Gold (if they retain the same tiers) not only for online gaming but for Netflix and for the whole, control your TV set top box experience.
It sounds slick but I think most people will balk at paying extra just to change channels with your voice. So they will have to bundle it with online gaming and other XBL Gold level features.
And what are the chances they raise subscription fees?
Some parts of the reveal were faked in my humble opinion. I think the Yusuf Mehdi piece was not real. Not saying that was it was not possible for the sports channels he chose to be showing the particular content they were showing, but in reality all of that footage was weeks old sports footage and unlikely for espn to be broadcasting at that time.
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They did something with Win8 embedded that really killed MC features. For one, I heard they stopped development on it years ago.
Ceton was going to come out with a 6-tuner DVR last year but they scrapped it because they found out they couldn't use Windows 8 Embedded. Not sure why they couldn't use Win 7 in that case.
I'm hoping for cheap MC Extender boxes. The market is basically dead and all you have are Xbox 360s. So if they reduce the price of the Xbox 360 Arcade to say $150 or less, that would appeal to a lot of HTPC enthusiasts. I don't see many warming up to paying $400 or more and then paying some kind of subscriptions to change channels through speech recognition.
I got an email from Ceton about this product a week or so ago: http://cetoncorp.com/products/infinitv-6-pcie/
This conference was aimed squarely at me and I thought it was excellent as it brought forth many of the things I wanted from Kinect v1 and from the expanded media functionality of the 360. I've been using (and mildly complaining about) the video/media features of the 360 since Video Marketplace launched in 2006(?).
Both my son and I make heavy use of the Kinect voice controls probably many orders of magnitude more than any other Kinect feature so it was exciting to see the natural progression of voice and definitely nice to see a much better gesture and body recog engine.
I actually thoroughly enjoyed the TV/Movie media integration.
I wanted to see some actual FIFA though, people may laugh about the dogs in COD but we lost two dogs on our Team and that hurt as much as losing one my brothers (I haven't played a COD since MW and probably still won't) they also experience PTSD in a similar fashion but I digress into the macabre, I can't wait to see more of Quantum Break and truly hope it both lives up to its hype and brings about a new blended experience to games. I've been dying for Halo movies for quite some time now but Special Ops and a TV series works as well - I don't ask for much - I liked Forward Unto Dawn.
With all of the damn above said, it looks like I will NOT be purchasing or pre-ordering an XBOX One. For those that have been around awhile and know my setup I have 65ft of Active USB2 running through walls and ceiling to get Kinect v1 working in my projector setup but now it looks like I'm pretty much screwed unless theres some way I can use existing wire-run for Kinect v2
Both my son and I make heavy use of the Kinect voice controls probably many orders of magnitude more than any other Kinect feature so it was exciting to see the natural progression of voice and definitely nice to see a much better gesture and body recog engine.
I actually thoroughly enjoyed the TV/Movie media integration.
I wanted to see some actual FIFA though, people may laugh about the dogs in COD but we lost two dogs on our Team and that hurt as much as losing one my brothers (I haven't played a COD since MW and probably still won't) they also experience PTSD in a similar fashion but I digress into the macabre, I can't wait to see more of Quantum Break and truly hope it both lives up to its hype and brings about a new blended experience to games. I've been dying for Halo movies for quite some time now but Special Ops and a TV series works as well - I don't ask for much - I liked Forward Unto Dawn.
With all of the damn above said, it looks like I will NOT be purchasing or pre-ordering an XBOX One. For those that have been around awhile and know my setup I have 65ft of Active USB2 running through walls and ceiling to get Kinect v1 working in my projector setup but now it looks like I'm pretty much screwed unless theres some way I can use existing wire-run for Kinect v2
GrimThorne
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Okay, has anyone noticed that word "ONE" never appears anywhere on the entire console? And I've seen just about every angle of the thing.
Does anyone here think that has any significance?
Does anyone here think that has any significance?
Of course it wasn't live TV as theres no way to have demoed all those features with real-time fantasy sports scoring and whatnot at 10am PST.
To your point though, if they are using an IR blaster to control the STBs channel changing will not work that way, it will not be instant. It will take time for the One to send each number and send ENTER. If they are using the remote control protocol over HDMI it might be that quick as I've never see it.
The one thing that was sneaky, and I am not sure how much stock to put in it, was that he started the demo with "Here's the aspiration." Aspiration? Is it going to do this or not?!?!
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