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This kind of joke would be right up your alley, I am disappointed in you
Formula 1 - 2014 Season
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This kind of joke would be right up your alley, I am disappointed in you
Engine freeze is really bad and now it shows the most, IMO. This just ensures that Renault & Ferrari PU will never catch up Mercedes this season.
At least not without some cheating by saying for every update that reliability is improved.
UniversalTruth
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That essentially means that Ferrari should write this season off, on paper and in reality.
Now, the question is if the changes will pay off in the long term.
Now, the question is if the changes will pay off in the long term.
There are provisions in the rules for engine "performance calibrations" in season, though the exact nature is cloudy to me, but the engines are supposed to have comparable performances between the manufacturers. The engines rules also have "safety" changes, and sometimes the manufacturers will sneak some performance enhancements in under the banner of safety.
[Edit] Apparently there is a "reliability" clause that gets exploited, though I'm sure there would be a safety one as well.
[Edit] Apparently there is a "reliability" clause that gets exploited, though I'm sure there would be a safety one as well.
Just put domenicali in there. You know what Stefano is in englisheh,
No one is arguing that Mercedez doesn't deserve the advantage, the question is how the others are supposed to catch up. If Mercedez had 3 cars, the rest of the field might as well just stop* racing.
We have had plenty examples during the formula one history of teams getting big advantages and many examples of others being able to catch up. But the way things are now it seems harder (to me at least) to re-gain lost ground and as a result advantages are pro-longed to a such a length it is damaging to Formula One.
*yes it's putting it to the extreme, but so far there hasn't been a single race where Mercedez were pushed to really show everything they have.
Actually it is, in those cases any team could just develop their car to utilize same inventions (assuming you could figure it out), in current case only Mercedes teams can play any catch up, Ferrari & Renault teams are out of luck 'till the end of the season
And just to add. The testing needed on whatever parts that teams wants to "copy" is inherently lacking thanks to the test "ban".
Before the test ban there would be countless of laps done on new equipment. When Schumacher went to Ferrari he introduced endless testing to get that team up to speed, hell he even tested with broken legs.
Mercedes have tested their engine with the special bits for ages, even if the other teams are already working on the same solution and may even have it working they still would need a lot of time before they can get the same reliability..
and another thing about the limited testing
Magnussen joined formula one with so little testing it's almost a miracle he (and other young drivers) can keep up, I think it's very understandable that so many drivers ends up being slow in f1 even though they were fast every where else.
Unlike running cars at all, which is limited to the prescribed test days, some mileage on straight-line tests and a limited number of camera days, running engines on dynos is unrestricted.
I am very well aware of that, Red Bull still showed up with a racer that melted
EDIT: And Mercedes used a Dyno as well, for years to get where they are
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/27009862
Red Bull lost the appeal. Too bad for Dan, but well deserved for RBR for not striving to follow the rules.
Red Bull lost the appeal. Too bad for Dan, but well deserved for RBR for not striving to follow the rules.
Apparently if they had followed FIA Dan wouldn't even had made it to second place, which imho makes Red Bull look even worse.
And that's to do with the overaggressive packaging of the engine on Red Bulls car.I am very well aware of that, Red Bull still showed up with a racer that melted
They all do, that's how they test and develop engines (any engine) ahead of time. Remember Renault were the first one to be touting their new F1 engine tech and the first to send out clips of the engine noise from the dyno.
Also note, that a lot of performance is not dictated by the pure mechanical elements anymore, Renault are claiming that as yet they've not been running the engines at peak and are developing the software for better harvesting and boost.
http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/9267211/Renault-We-re-getting-closer
Or he just couldn't find settings suiting him well enough on this track.
Kimi apparently had some gear issues, shifting to lower gear had some problems
UniversalTruth
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NR made some errors preventing him from outqualifying both Red Bulls.
