Formula 1 - 2014 Season
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UniversalTruth
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Vettel resisted a little bit but in the end did what they told him. He made enough space for DR in Turn 1, so the overtake was safe and finished.
It did look like he was out breaking himself.. we will never know..
But this is the season where vettel might have to prove he is a champion and not a product of newey..
UniversalTruth
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Yes, he made it look more interesting and natural. Damn those team orders, if it is a circus / theatre, at least execute it or try in the best possible way for the spectators!
Yes, he made it look more interesting and natural. Damn those team orders, if it is a circus / theatre, at least execute it or try in the best possible way for the spectators!
I don't think he actually let him by, if he did it based on team orders he would make it look very clear that he wasn't fighting. we will never know..
UniversalTruth
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We are in deep trouble. If we don't unite (opposite of all divisions right now), nothing good will happen to human race. ;(
I should "like" his page for the sake of unity then?
I ignore all that pre-race shit and just wait for the warm-up lap so it doesn't bother me.
Overall i'm pleased with the results; Alonso was competitive, Ric beat seb, Hulk came 6th and Rai seems to be improving.
UniversalTruth
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It seems the car itself is good on that particular circuit (historically) but otherwise (even he admitted) I wouldn't read too much from these results.
UniversalTruth
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Q: No driver likes to move over for his team mate - and you don’t have a history for doing that. So did you move over for Daniel Ricciardo or did you just run wide?
SV: I did move over. Although initially I did not understand why (I had to) because we were on the same tyres, unlike in Bahrain, and that was also the reason why I double-checked when I got the call from the pit wall. At that point Daniel (Ricciardo) was on a different strategy, and I realised that I had to move over, as there was no point of holding him back with him having a two-stop strategy. At that point in time I was still on a three-stop, which we changed later on, also to a two-stop strategy. Towards the end of the race I also realized that I did not have the pace, which was not really clear to me at that earlier stage, and which you could see in the result of me having a 24 second gap. I was even happy to keep the distance to Nico (Hulkenberg), and not lose another position.
http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2014/4/15757.html
Sebastian Vettel Q&A: I’m fighting with the car
UniversalTruth
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It was already quite obvious from the move itself
Then, why do you irritate me, or annoy me or whatever the fuck you are doing all the time?
With regards to Vettel's performances, the narrative that has come out from a few sources recently is that Vettel is still driving the car as though it was exhaust blown (2013). With exhaust blown diffusers you want to get the power down hard on the exit in order to induce more downforce and speed up the exit of the corner, however with 2014 cars that type of throttle application won't help with "additional" downforce and with massive torque and more limited downforce generally it'll just chew up the tires. Horner himself has commented that, for the first time with the Pirelli's, Vettel is getting through them much more aggressively.
Conversely I wonder if this is where the 2014 rules are playing a little more into Hamilton's abilities - for him the story seems to have turned on it head from eating through the tires to suddenly being able to manage them better than many in the field, at the same time being very fast and having one of the lower fuel usages in the field. Previous interviews have suggested that Hamilton's speed comes from his braking prowess; he brakes later by being able to graduate the brake application less as the car decelerates and scrubs off downforce, hence he's getting close to the maximum between braking and locking the wheels. It might be that his sensitivity and control with his left foot is now being equally applied to his right foot on corner exit, being better able to control the balance between traction and wheelspin with these torque heavy low downforce rules. Could certainly point to why there seems to be both better tire management and low fuel usage from him, while maintaining high speed (relative to his teammate).
Conversely I wonder if this is where the 2014 rules are playing a little more into Hamilton's abilities - for him the story seems to have turned on it head from eating through the tires to suddenly being able to manage them better than many in the field, at the same time being very fast and having one of the lower fuel usages in the field. Previous interviews have suggested that Hamilton's speed comes from his braking prowess; he brakes later by being able to graduate the brake application less as the car decelerates and scrubs off downforce, hence he's getting close to the maximum between braking and locking the wheels. It might be that his sensitivity and control with his left foot is now being equally applied to his right foot on corner exit, being better able to control the balance between traction and wheelspin with these torque heavy low downforce rules. Could certainly point to why there seems to be both better tire management and low fuel usage from him, while maintaining high speed (relative to his teammate).
Rurouni
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From my pov, Hamilton fuel and tire advantage is more because he was in clean air most of the time (and at front), thus he can manage the fuel and tire usage more effectively. Maybe if Rosberg can be in front and Hamilton happens to be in the middle of the pack we can be sure if Hamilton fuel and tire advantage is real or not.
From a fuel perspective its not a given that "clean air" is an advantage - you get fewer chances of a tow and you don't get as many opportunities to use the DRS (in both cases, only potentially when lapping). Both of these will save fuel for the followers.
You don't have to break earlier or accelerate harder in order to keep up or ahead of the other cars. At the front you just need to control the pace, and you can use the kinetic energy storage to a maximum. The fuel advantage Hamilton had shows this.
UniversalTruth
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In Monte Carlo Mercedes won't have that advantage given by the engine.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/will-gray/gray-matter-why-mercedes-dominating-f1-140808977.html
Gray Matter: Why Mercedes are dominating F1
MERCEDES DOMINATE ON THE STRAIGHT
The key factor in Mercedes’ dominant performance was clearer to see than ever in China, with the 1170m run between turns 13 and 14 showing just how well the Mercedes powerplant is working.
Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg topped the speed trap table in qualifying, both clocking just over 317km/h, as Mercedes-powered cars filled the top six. In contrast, the Red Bulls of Sebastian Vettel and Daniel Ricciardo were right at the bottom, some 20km/h slower.
Almost all of Mercedes’ lap time gain over their rivals came in the final sector, with the long straight that it contains representing a massive 21.4 percent of the entire lap distance.
Asked if Mercedes could be beaten, Vettel simply said: “I think if we put two chicanes in all the straights then yes.”
In the race, Rosberg was fastest at 336.8km/h with Hamilton mid table on 332.3km/h. Ricciardo was on 321.7km/h and Vettel down at 318.3km/h.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/will-gray/gray-matter-why-mercedes-dominating-f1-140808977.html
Gray Matter: Why Mercedes are dominating F1
MERCEDES DOMINATE ON THE STRAIGHT
The key factor in Mercedes’ dominant performance was clearer to see than ever in China, with the 1170m run between turns 13 and 14 showing just how well the Mercedes powerplant is working.
Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg topped the speed trap table in qualifying, both clocking just over 317km/h, as Mercedes-powered cars filled the top six. In contrast, the Red Bulls of Sebastian Vettel and Daniel Ricciardo were right at the bottom, some 20km/h slower.
Almost all of Mercedes’ lap time gain over their rivals came in the final sector, with the long straight that it contains representing a massive 21.4 percent of the entire lap distance.
Asked if Mercedes could be beaten, Vettel simply said: “I think if we put two chicanes in all the straights then yes.”
In the race, Rosberg was fastest at 336.8km/h with Hamilton mid table on 332.3km/h. Ricciardo was on 321.7km/h and Vettel down at 318.3km/h.
I'm calling bullshit on that one.
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2014/917/7334/best_sector_times.html
Bahrain was the same story and the other races probably.
Quickest in every sector, despite it raining which neutralises the engine advantage to some degree.
Mercedes have a great car and engine and will win at Monaco.
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2014/917/7334/best_sector_times.html
Bahrain was the same story and the other races probably.
Quickest in every sector, despite it raining which neutralises the engine advantage to some degree.
Mercedes have a great car and engine and will win at Monaco.
