Formula 1 - 2013 Season
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That is true! I wish Heikki all the best and for him to enjoy 2 races this year!
If lucky he might get some more permanent drive in the future.
If nothing else, Caterham. Fernandez has said on several occasions that only reason Heikki isn't driving for them is money - he doesn't bring sponsor money, the other drivers do.
It was a very nice qualifying session! Shame for Webbo making small mistake in S3 because his S1 was superb 
Adrian Newey said in interview that Mark's only disadvantage to Vettel is Pirelli tyre management and on old Bridgestones he would fight with Sebastian for race wins more often than not!
Adrian Newey said in interview that Mark's only disadvantage to Vettel is Pirelli tyre management and on old Bridgestones he would fight with Sebastian for race wins more often than not!
While he done well in the last sector, webber done poorly as he lost 2-3 tenths compared to his previous lap which basically gifted pole to vettel.
Also how much more does webber weigh than vettel? seems like one tenth over webber (even if you ignore webbers bad final sector) is a pretty weak job when their weight difference alone is meant to give vettel more than that.
Billy Idol
Legend
Booooooring.
Thanks F1 for changing the tires in the middle of the season back to 2012 specs to help out RB 2013, which was admittely by Newey build quite close to RB 2012...must be one of the most flawed decisions I have ever witnessed in my F1-fan-career.
I probably in the first time ever since 19+ year going to borther warching the final race.
Thanks F1 for changing the tires in the middle of the season back to 2012 specs to help out RB 2013, which was admittely by Newey build quite close to RB 2012...must be one of the most flawed decisions I have ever witnessed in my F1-fan-career.
I probably in the first time ever since 19+ year going to borther warching the final race.
DuckThor Evil
Legend
The decision to gimp the tires in the first place was a BS move targeted to reduce the Red Bull aearodynamics performance. Just to throw a bone to the rest of the field was 100 times more flawed and a bullshit handicapping decision. Penalizing the one team that knows how to build a fast car. Red Bull was going to win anyway, but because those BS tires proved to be too shitty and dangerous, they had to go back to better tires.
You don't make shitty tires on purpose just to even out the field and call that high end motor sport. Yeah it's not optimal viewing pleasure that there isn't much competition for the first place, but artificial evening out is the biggest horse shit that you can do in any sport. Let's hope that next year few other teams can build a fast car, instead of the officials and frigging "spectacle protectors" coming up with more BS limitations.
tongue_of_colicab
Veteran
You are forgetting F1 is as much about entertainment as about sports. If one team is miles ahead of everybody else people will stop watching F1 altogether.
Your argument is flawed anyway as some teams built a car that worked just fine with the tires. Yes RB might be able to generate the most down force but apparently they couldn't build (or be bothered) a car that worked well with the tires.
Teams like Lotus and FI got it right, teams like RB and Sauber not so much. That's not BS that's just some teams doing a better job then others on regulations they all agreed on.
Your argument is flawed anyway as some teams built a car that worked just fine with the tires. Yes RB might be able to generate the most down force but apparently they couldn't build (or be bothered) a car that worked well with the tires.
Teams like Lotus and FI got it right, teams like RB and Sauber not so much. That's not BS that's just some teams doing a better job then others on regulations they all agreed on.
Billy Idol
Legend
@DrEvil: RB build a flawed 2013 car imo. The aerodynamic load was to high and thus to taxing on the tires imo. Lotus did build the car with the 2013 tires in mind...they did a good job imo. Some other teams like Force India as well.
I agree with you that artificially penalize the best team is not what I want. But in contrast to you, I think that this exactly happens this year to some extend: the tire advantage of Lotus was destroyed by a pure suits/money decision from the officials. And no, I am absolutely not d'accord to imply that safety was the main/only concern...I wish you had watched the German TV broadcasting and their full propaganda rolling out ...
PS: I also blame all the other big teams (Fer, Merc, McL) to be so shitty this season and no competition at all!
I did not watch the last F1 race (first time ever I missed a race on purpose. Since over 19 years of F1 watching, this makes the third grand prix I missed in total) and probably will not bother to watch the last one...
I agree with you that artificially penalize the best team is not what I want. But in contrast to you, I think that this exactly happens this year to some extend: the tire advantage of Lotus was destroyed by a pure suits/money decision from the officials. And no, I am absolutely not d'accord to imply that safety was the main/only concern...I wish you had watched the German TV broadcasting and their full propaganda rolling out ...
PS: I also blame all the other big teams (Fer, Merc, McL) to be so shitty this season and no competition at all!
I did not watch the last F1 race (first time ever I missed a race on purpose. Since over 19 years of F1 watching, this makes the third grand prix I missed in total) and probably will not bother to watch the last one...
DuckThor Evil
Legend
No offense, but the British GP was the last race with the old tires, Vettel had an engine failure in that race, but he still led by 21 points in the championship after that race..., so to me that would point out that they also did a fairly good job on the car? They have also been very strong this year on the low downforce high speed tracks unlike in previous years. Their car has been all around great, at least when Vettel drives it. Mark seems to struggle more with the tires. So I really don't understand the part about them not doing a good job with the car.
Despite that the tires at beginning of the season were designed to handicap downforce usage by the Red Bull imo, which had always been Red Bull's strength. Red Bull worked just fine with those tires also, but they had to cruise more than others, because their car had more reserved potential than their competitors, potential that was being artificially held back.
Despite that the tires at beginning of the season were designed to handicap downforce usage by the Red Bull imo, which had always been Red Bull's strength. Red Bull worked just fine with those tires also, but they had to cruise more than others, because their car had more reserved potential than their competitors, potential that was being artificially held back.
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Tires are no more artificial a restraint than any of the other rules. If F1 wants to continue to have viewers and sponsors they would do well to find more of them not less.
what a terrible comment.
Yes, it's awful to want competitive races.
