Formula 1 - 2012 Season

[itsmydamnation]

Vettel is insane. 0.25 covered top 12 in Q2 and Vettel just smoked everyone with the same and he had just one run. That is insane.

and if he gets done at the start then his race is over. 1 the RB cant pass 2 its Valencia. Problem with the RB from the past three seasons has been that its race performance isn't as high as its qually performance. Thats fine if you lead every race but this season is so much closer.

anyway here are last years race highlights

 

[RobertR1]

This season is closed up artificially due to the tyres. I find this season to be quite shit personally. If you look past vettel last season, the podium was always competitive and it wasn't due to the BS of this year. Oh well.

 

[itsmydamnation]

you could argue that with every single control measure. here:

This season is closed up artificially due to no refueling. I find this season to be quite shit personally. If you look at past seasons , the podium was always competitive and it wasn't due to the BS of this year. Oh well.

if anything the tires are way less brutal then last year. aka doing a webber.

 

[Gubbi]

Holy crap, so much for a boring Valencia race

Alonso, Hamilton and Raikonen in a three way battle for first

Cheers

 

[Kaotik]

Holy crap, so much for a boring Valencia race

Alonso, Hamilton and Raikonen in a three way battle for first

Cheers

Fingers crossed that both Alonsos & Hamiltons tires melt, they SHOULD be harder on tires than Lotus is

 

[Kaotik]

Hamilton out, he shouldn't have tried to defense that much with no grip

edit:
Shame for Alonsos tires lasting so well, could have been 8/8

edit2:
Fun fact: The podium now has current Ferrari championship candinate and 2 Ferrari world champions

edit3:
I wonder if they'll do anything about Alonso stopping mid circuit, you shouldn't be allowed to do that. Maybe he ran out of fuel completely, not having enough of it for sample and will be disqualified

 

[itsmydamnation]

edit3:
I wonder if they'll do anything about Alonso stopping mid circuit, you shouldn't be allowed to do that. Maybe he ran out of fuel completely, not having enough of it for sample and will be disqualified

no it wont, that was after Qually. There has already been someone stop on the track this year(cant remember who) and nothing happened.

 

[Gubbi]

Hamilton out, he shouldn't have tried to defense that much with no grip

Yeah, stupid driving. The points he would get for a fourth place finish is much more important than being on the podium.

edit:
Shame for Alonsos tires lasting so well, could have been 8/8

I know you have your finnish goggles on Alonso did drive a fanstastic race all day.

edit3:
I wonder if they'll do anything about Alonso stopping mid circuit, you shouldn't be allowed to do that. Maybe he ran out of fuel completely, not having enough of it for sample and will be disqualified

He might be fined, or even docked starting places next race, but disqualifying a winning Alonso in Valencia/Spain ? Not a chance :grin

Cheers

 

[UniversalTruth]

I wonder if they'll do anything about Alonso stopping mid circuit

Actually it wasn't mid circuit like you are implying but rather just few hundred meters away, or few corners from the start-finish line...

 

[tongue_of_colicab]

Well rule wise I doubt that in case of stopping out on track it matters if it's 1000 meters or just 10. Out on track is out on track. Anyway stopping out on track after the race is allowed.

 

[Tahir2]

Yeah, stupid driving. The points he [Hamilton] would get for a fourth place finish is much more important than being on the podium.

Have to agree - Lewis needs to control his anger at these critical moments, if he had let Maldanado past it would not have been as embarrassing as this result.

McLaren do need to sort their pit stops out, if Hamilton lead the race he may not have eaten up his tyres so much.

 

[Mariner]

I think Hamilton was hoping too much to be able to hold Maldonado off with his tyres gone and it is unlikely he'd have managed it for the remainder of the race.

That said, Hamilton was actually on the track and Maldonado was off the track - Maldonado actually rejoined the track to plough into the side of the McLaren so it looks to me that he ought to be the one receiving the punishment.

Once again, however, you have to say McLaren have only themselves to blame. Without yet another botched pit stop Hamilton would probably have been in front of Alonso at the time of that crash - it probably would have been those two hitting each other instead!

 

[Kaotik]

Sigh, typical, Maldonado penalized, when was the last time Hamilton seriously got anything but reprimand from any of his actions?

 

[Lightman]

I'm not a Hamilton fan but he's RACING driver and he's not meant to give places easily. He didn't do anything wrong defending, it was Maldonaldo who drove into his side.

On another note GREAT RACE

 

[Tahir2]

Sigh, typical, Maldonado penalized, when was the last time Hamilton seriously got anything but reprimand from any of his actions?

I would say racing incident and Hamilton did not need to defend an untenable position, but why would Hamilton get a penalty for this particular incident? Otherwise if that is not your point you are just bashing Hamilton for no reason Kaotik.

Typical when was the last time Vettel, Schumacher etc etc etc got anything but a reprimand for their actions????? Yawns.

 

[Kaotik]

How often is Vettel involved in crashes? Schumacher got penalized last time this season in Spain, 5 places penalty to Monaco for crashing to Senna.

Sure he's a racing driver, but he wasn't on the typical racing line and forced Maldonado out, which is something the rules forbid, and that's the part he should have been penalized for.
He was in the exact same corner being overatken before too, by Grosjean, he left him enough room then, no problems anywhere, this time he didn't leave room but instead forced Maldonado out.

 

[Dave Baumann]

Eh? Hamiltoin was on the inside line with Maldonado trying to go round the outside, Maldonado's positioning made him prone to being pushed off the track, which is exactly what happened. As just about every pundit pointed out he should have gone left after that, cutting the corned and then having another go at Hamilton later; instead he carried straight on, straddled the cerb and lost steering.

From the perspective of the incident it is Maldonado's fault (hence the penalty), from the perspective of playing the wiser, longer game Hamilton should have realised the inevitability - really this has been his only blot on his copybook this year.

 

[Kaotik]

Eh? Hamiltoin was on the inside line with Maldonado trying to go round the outside, Maldonado's positioning made him prone to being pushed off the track, which is exactly what happened. As just about every pundit pointed out he should have gone left after that, cutting the corned and then having another go at Hamilton later; instead he carried straight on, straddled the cerb and lost steering.

Hamilton was on the inside line but not on the racing line, he had no right to push Maldonado out from the track.
It was pretty much carbon copy of Grosjean passing Hamilton as a scenario, only difference being that Hamilton left Grosjean enough space to stay on track, but not for Maldonado

From the perspective of the incident it is Maldonado's fault (hence the penalty), from the perspective of playing the wiser, longer game Hamilton should have realised the inevitability - really this has been his only blot on his copybook this year.

So in your opinion it's irrelevant that Hamiltons own actions, which were against rulebook to begin with, caused the whole incident to even start because it was Maldonados car who crashed to Hamiltons?

 

[Tahir2]

Maldanado came back on track and hit Hamilton. He has a good track record of hitting cars unnecessarily ... Perez anyone? He was penalized but all things considered it was a small punishment.

 

[Dave Baumann]

Hamilton was on the inside line but not on the racing line, he had no right to push Maldonado out from the track.

Yes, yes had every right, Maldonado was not passed, Hamilton had the line. There is no lack of clarity here - hence the penalty applying to Maldonado.