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Cool. I think in the meantime, estimates, should have no more credence than any other speculative sources.
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I can't find my notes on this one, but was able to come up with Xbox One units shipped based off Microsoft financial quarterly reports. Please pardon the link to the source, as I'm on mobile but their statement is based off official Quarterly Financial Reports. Yes, there is a difference between shipped and sold, but it gives us rough idea.
So Xbox shipped 14 million units in 14 months (November 2013 - December 2014)
Shipped numbers from Fianancial Report @ https://www.vgchartz.com/article/252907/microsoft-ship-66m-xbox-consoles-achieve-265b-revenue/
- November 15 2013 - Xbox One Release date
- 2014 January Report - Xbox shipped 7.4 million
- 2015 January Report - Xbox shipped 6.6 million
So Xbox shipped 14 million units in 14 months (November 2013 - December 2014)
Shipped numbers from Fianancial Report @ https://www.vgchartz.com/article/252907/microsoft-ship-66m-xbox-consoles-achieve-265b-revenue/
Wall Street Journal article on the Sony PS5 price hike:
www.wsj.com
Sony Raises PlayStation 5 Prices in Most Markets
The Japanese electronics and entertainment company said that the price of PlayStation 5 will increase in select markets across Europe, the Middle East, Africa, Asia-Pacific, Latin America and Canada.
www.wsj.com
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I believe, according to the forms rules regarding citing VGChartz, you need to ban yourself!
Seriously though, this calls in question the validity of all speculative/estimates.
I believe, according to the forms rules regarding citing VGChartz, you need to ban yourself!
As I said, pardon the link as being on mobile I couldn't readily find and link to the official Microsoft Financial Quarterly Reports. Those numbers are merely being echoed from official statenents.
Seriously, That's one of the reason why I always said the Xbox Series estimates were absolute lower bounds and should not be taken as "the number".
I wouldn’t think there would be a difference of 2 million between shipped and sold.
Aaron Greenberg did retweet this VGChartz tweet about the XSX/S at 17 months doing 13.87m vs X360 doing 9.38m . That was over a quarter ago.
I'd wager with almost another 5 months down they would be at around 16-17m. But I guess we have to wait for Aaron to retweet an update lol
I'd wager with almost another 5 months down they would be at around 16-17m. But I guess we have to wait for Aaron to retweet an update lol
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The same goes for most analysists, they all pull from the same data sources. In that regard VGChartz isn't any more or less inaccurate than Ampere Analysis.
As long as people understand to take any numbers released by anyone other than MS, Sony, Nintendo, etc. with some level of salt, then it's fair to use those numbers, IMO. Also, as long as the source is cited so that people will know it's an estimate from X source rather than officially reported numbers.
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Xbox closing in on PS5 beast mode lol. Never underestimate competitors.
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I don't know. The US has some draconian SEC rules about comms regarding product performance. If VGC's numbers are high by a margin, that's the kind of thing that leads to probes about misleading investors. I reckon those numbers are pretty damn close.
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It's a pretty tight race this generation and I believe it's about to get tighter when the XSS hits $250.
That’s a fair perspective. Just cite
I don't think he would retweet anything miss leading. If anything I would think he would only retweet something on the lower end of what they actually hit.
I don't know about that. I think the series s having less ram , smaller apu , less power requirements and a much smaller foot print is allowing them to out perform their previous best. It remains to be seen what Sony is actually able to do. The ps4 did very well and I am sure there is a loyal fan base that can continue to push it further than the xbox
Yea, I don't think he would have retweeted it if the numbers were too high. So they are likely on par or a little lower than what they did.I don't know. The US has some draconian SEC rules about comms regarding product performance. If VGC's numbers are high by a margin, that's the kind of thing that leads to probes about misleading investors. I reckon those numbers are pretty damn close.
Japanese players are begging for Final Fantasy 16 on Steam after the PS5 price hike
Sony may be making PC gamers out of Final Fantasy fans
www.gamesradar.com
If I were MS i'd step in here and open up the wallet to get it on xbox series . Start going around to a lot of companies to try to get them on board.
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What companies can Microsoft pay to get the next Final Fantasy on PC?
Surely it's only one...Those were two thoughts. Get FF16 on series and then go to other companies for more popular eastern titles.What companies can Microsoft pay to get the next Final Fantasy on PC?
Greenberg retweeting them probably means theyre in the ballpark (or maybe not as he may be clueless or uncaring to Xbox sales in his role), but never forget vgchartz are just some guy's estimates. Probably well studied estimates of course, but just estimates.
Also 360 sales are a bad comp as that console sold not that well in it's early years. It really took off in later years 5-7 to a wild degree historically. Heck I remember tracking meticulously how Xbox One was ahead of 360 in NPD for ~5 years, and I dont think anybody thought One was a big hit.. Launch aligned my NPD numbers say 360 didn't eclipse One launch aligned until December 2018, more than 5 years after launch.
Also I forgot my thought, PS5 Horizon bundles for 550 are the main/only ones available in the states lately, so essentially the no increase for USA was a canard (though it gives them flexibility in the future I suppose)
Also 360 sales are a bad comp as that console sold not that well in it's early years. It really took off in later years 5-7 to a wild degree historically. Heck I remember tracking meticulously how Xbox One was ahead of 360 in NPD for ~5 years, and I dont think anybody thought One was a big hit.. Launch aligned my NPD numbers say 360 didn't eclipse One launch aligned until December 2018, more than 5 years after launch.
Also I forgot my thought, PS5 Horizon bundles for 550 are the main/only ones available in the states lately, so essentially the no increase for USA was a canard (though it gives them flexibility in the future I suppose)
Are you sure ?
I had left gamestop by that point but my good friend worked there then as a manager. I preordered at his store the day preorders went up ( I had given him money to put down for me) and I got mine launch day but there were people on the reservation que that didn't get them for months and the xbox 360 as I remember it here in the USA took off from launch and never slowed down , the RROD stuff , The ps3 launch non of that really slowed it down.
Microsoft played their cards well and benefited hugely from the competition's limited supply. They needed a contingency plan for the predicted supply limitations. And that gave birth to Series S.
It was a smart business strategy to be able to secure better production and ship even more XBOX's out there. Series S are significantly easier to find than X or PS5.
The two consoles more or less have the same games and they are equally as capable. Exclusive games are even less relevant now. People are eager to jump in to the new generation and due to scarcity more people are willing to buy whatever becomes available instead of waiting for a specific brand.
If chip production and costs weren't a problem, we might have seen a different picture altogether. Limited supply is pushing adoption at similar levels with the XBOX being a bit less constrained in terms of getting new XBOX's out there.
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