All purpose Sales and Sales Rumours and Anecdotes [2022 Edition]

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Silent_Buddha said:
See posts in the PS5 thread I made. Basically this is due to increased cost to manufacture which led to an increased price in Japan. Then other countries prices were increased to roughly match the current selling price in Japan after currency conversion. Countries like the US didn't have an increase due to the relative strength of the currency versus the Yen.

Regards,
SB
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Canada's dollar has only increased in value vs the yen in the last year, though, and it's price increased anyway. It's not too far off from USD.
 
Jay said:
Once they are both able to meet demand then it will be a bigger focus. As I said xbox is already selling very well.

This year hasn't been great at all games wise and they've been able to do well based on having quality hardware at a good price point, gamepass and the promis that their studios will be releasing games.
Next year I'm expecting games to start to drop and that's what will swing people even more.
Especially in regions that are mainly PS centric, which is where they need to do better in. It's less about cost for them.

They are already very competive on price especially having XSS and sales.

Unlike last gen xbox is in a really good place, and even then they couldn't just sell it for peanuts to gain market share.

PS - I did say exclusives, you saying they won best publisher in 2021 when lot of the games was on PS doesn't really address it.
Just shows their capable.
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I think you have to remember that a lot of people are going to buy a console for the cumulative experience. So someone buying a xbox this holiday wont just look at holiday or 2022 release games but 2020 and 2021 and most likely games releasing in 2023. MS has some great titles can be had on discount or through game pass for low prices. 2023 already has three large MS releases with Starfield, Redfall and Forza motor sport. You also have most likely Diablo 4 , minecraft legends and ara. Then you have the game pass deal with Legal of Legens , valorant and those games.

I have always been of the thought that the Series S is meant to shine at the $200 price mark and that MS built the console to get down to that pricing as quickly as possible. It can surely be that inflation and the difficulty of sourcing components would slow it down. But we have already seen woot doing $250 and $280 flash sales (I think amazon did it once too(yes i know woot is an amazon company) and we see best buy right now is offering 2 digital games with the purchase of a series S. I think that will be a precursor to an official price drop. I just don't know if the price drop will come this fall or with the release of starfield.
 
see colon said:
Canada's dollar has only increased in value vs the yen in the last year, though, and it's price increased anyway. It's not too far off from USD.
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Yeah, I just saw that in the other thread. After conversion to Yen, they are roughly the same price (US and Canada PS5). So rather than match the new Japanese price, they appear to have adjusted the Canadian price to match the USD to Yen conversion.

Perhaps they are trying to keep the NA market roughly the same. In which case, I guess it sucks to share the region with the US? :p

Looks like maybe smaller markets just get shafted more. Looking at Mexico's price. :oops:

[EDIT] That just made me look at how much the Xbox Series X costs in Japan after converting back to USD. A whopping 365.60 USD. :p

Regards,
SB
 
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What you mean? ;)
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They are not an analysis company, at least their numbers are not credible and are often subject to change. If you screen scraped their website and compared it qtr ot qtr you will see a lot of volatility when official numbers are released. Quite frankly, it's not entirely sure how their numbers are generated.
 
iroboto said:
They are not an analysis company, at least their numbers are not credible and are often subject to change. If you screen scraped their website and compared it qtr ot qtr you will see a lot of volatility when official numbers are released. Quite frankly, it's not entirely sure how their numbers are generated.
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Alright lets disregard the above post with vgchartz then :)
 
Those estimates from Ampere Analysis firm are not accurate.

We know for an absolute certainly they were over 12 million as an absolute lowest bounds floor before January 11 2022. There has been substantially increased availability since that time. Xbox has been the highest selling unit-wise current-gen console in the US for 3 quarters now (for the US). To suggest less than 1.8 million Series X and S consoles have sold in 8 months World Wide is so laughably wrong.
 
BRiT said:
Those estimates from Ampere Analysis firm are not accurate.

We know for an absolute certainly they were over 12 million as an absolute lowest bounds floor before January 11 2022. There has been substantially increased availability since that time. Xbox has been the highest selling unit-wise current-gen console in the US for 3 quarters now (for the US). To suggest less than 1.8 million Series X and S consoles have sold in 8 months World Wide is so laughably wrong.
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Yea I was going to say it seemed low. But I believe it’s about 360 speed and they took it nearly at face value. It was announced it a beating 360 so they put it about that range. I think it should be higher but I’m not sure by how much. Global counts are much tougher than NA only counts.
 
BRiT said:
Those estimates from Ampere Analysis firm are not accurate.

We know for an absolute certainly they were over 12 million as an absolute lowest bounds floor before January 11 2022. There has been substantially increased availability since that time. Xbox has been the highest selling unit-wise current-gen console in the US for 3 quarters now (for the US). To suggest less than 1.8 million Series X and S consoles have sold in 8 months World Wide is so laughably wrong.
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What is the source the of 12 million figure? I googled it and the top hit was a VGChartz article :runaway: which was at least was reporting analyst Daniel Ahmad at Niko Partners tweeting on 11 January that "his estimates put shipment figures for the Xbox Series X|S at over 12 million units."

That "12 million" number cropped up in lots of reporting because Phil Spencer had just stated "Xbox Series X|S remains the fastest-selling Xbox console generation in history." and a lot of media outlets carried these stores together and it looked like an official figure. VGChartz estimates 15m+ as of June, which looks about right if 12m was right and the sales rate between January and June was consistent and not impacted by pre-consumer consumer saving. But we don't trust VGChartz so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
DSoup said:
What is the source the of 12 million figure?
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Pretty sure it was quoted and talked about in one of the threads on B3D, just not sure which one.

There was a Phil Spencer interview by the New York Times that was published in early January 2022 here it was said "at this point... sold more of this generation of Xboxes, which is Xbox Series X and S, than we had any previous version of Xboxes.". Using that statement with historical sales figures of all previous Xbox consoles put it as an absolute lower bounds of 12 million. We don't know the actual fugure but we know what it is more than.

New York Times interview published January 2022: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/opinion/sway-kara-swisher-phil-spencer.html?showTranscript=1

Since that is paywalled, here is a EuroGamer news blurb about that published interview: https://www.eurogamer.net/xbox-seri...console-generation-despite-supply-constraints
 
BRiT said:
There was a Phil Spencer interview by the New York Times that was published in early January 2022 here it was said "at this point... sold more of this generation of Xboxes, which is Xbox Series X and S, than we had any previous version of Xboxes.". Using that statement with historical sales figures of all previous Xbox consoles put it as an absolute lower bounds of 12 million. We don't know the actual fugure but we know what it is more than.
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So what's the source for the previous generation Xbox sales that sold 12m in the same period (14 months?) after release that we can take that statement as meaning 12m minimum?

This ain't aimed particularly at your, BRiT, I'm just trying to work out how we got to the 12m number as being stone-solid. Frankly, 12m seems more than reasonable given Series S has been hitting out of the park, yet ZhugeEX estimated that number after Phil Spencer's comments, why didn't he just just cite the previous earlier sales figure on which we're hanging 12m as as minimum?
 
Oh, I get what you're going for. The trouble is most use Twitter and they drop a sentence and move on without citing sources..

I think many use "estimates" as they absolutely do not have actual sales figures provided by Microsoft. Even with the data they are provided with by certain retailers, they are still missing sales numbers from key stores. In particular they are missing data from the online Microsoft store which has handled a significant part of the preorders as well as running special sales and special queueing as availability has improved. This was in the lead up to Holiday 2021 by invitation only Series X bundles and then the sustained Series X console availability starting in January.

It's different with PlayStation as Sony provides absolute sales numbers at certain times.

I'll dig up the other console sales numbers when I can. Pretty sure I did that already, just need to find where I might have posted it or noted it.
 
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