From their first announcement to recent statements they've always said that Project Scorpio will be released this holiday season. Just as the talk that the PS4 Pro might have been delayed to bump the specs once Scorpio was announced turned out to be false I think any talk of a Scorpio delay for spec increases will be false. I would've thought they'd have the hardware well and truly sewn up by now, contracts in place with AMD and production schedules laid out. If they're still saying holiday 2017 now then I'd expect it to be true.
Middle Generation Console Upgrade Discussion [Scorpio, 4Pro]
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If there is a little bump in performance at this point it just mean that they are setting definitive clocks, like they did in the past.
Any change in the architecture at this point it´s wishful thinking or suicidal for MS at this point in time.
Any change in the architecture at this point it´s wishful thinking or suicidal for MS at this point in time.
Phil tweeted something to the effect of played his first Scorpio game on actual hardware last month I believe. That would indicate hardware is well and truly locked in. Clocks may differ but hardware features must be also locked.
really shocked at how little AMD has actually given out in terms of real information about the GPU.
Potential Scorpio leaks inbound?..
https://twitter.com/JezCorden/status/836666943427985408
https://twitter.com/JezCorden/status/836630478958571520
https://twitter.com/JezCorden/status/836666943427985408
https://twitter.com/JezCorden/status/836630478958571520
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Teh upgradez??!!
Also username "Matt", a longtime "insider" dudebro on Negoaf, sez (about Scorpio, and these new rumblings I guess) "I think you all should start hearing more soon. Shit is getting out there..."
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It is when we've had pages upon pages of discussions about it without getting anything clear. It is pointless to relive that discussion when nothing has changed.
What new information could possibly make you say that.
If you're thinking of HBCC, it won't help much on a unified memory like a console.
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Interesting, I'm not sure I would jump directly to this conclusion just because it's unified. HBCC according to the diagrams support more than just Memory... there is a link pointing to network storage.
And we still don't know how it operates. I'm thinking you're implying that pointer swaps would be sufficient for a unified memory perspective. But that doesn't cut down memory access stalling.
So caches as far as I know, are usually operating much faster than RAM, I feel like someone will find an exception here, but this is the extent of my knowledge of caches. Keep as much as possible in L1, if not L2. If not than L3. I guess if not that? HBC?
To me this implies to me that unified memory would still benefit from this.
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Replacing the CPUs could mean a lot of work but since MS is supposedly reworking the the memory controller it wouldn't be insane to think they can use some form of AMD bandwidth management to gain a significant edge in terms of performance.
It seems to me that HBCC refers to a feature that enables using the higher performance local video memory that is on board a graphics card or GPU package more intelligently. Since Scorpio is probably not going to have a separate pool of memory dedicated to the GPU, this feature probably doesn't apply.
RPM will almost certainly be in there, though, if it's what I think it is, since it's in the PS4 Pro's APU.
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