He said no. He also said that it was a pointless gripe--which is basically true (TV depending) and the reason people complaining about its' lack on the lower-price PS3 were being goofballs--but he didn't actually say why.
Xbox 360 HD-DVD Interview
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Luckily for you the 1080p sets WILL take a 1080i signal via component and create a beautiful 1080p picture for you by deinterlacing the image.
Phewfff, crisis averted!!
The HDDVD drive will be able to hook up to a PC as well, so there's really nothing on a theoretical level stopping it from working, other than programming of course.
The official word was that there were no plans in the works to make the drive compatible with a PC. But, does that mean it can't be done?? That was left very open ended.
Again coming from the Insiders thread over at AVS. Not in the mood to search the 100 pages for the exact post by Amir.
Mmm i'm sure there is more to it that that or no one woul dbother with 1080p, no?
It will all depend on the TV's deinterlacer really and we all know that can be very much hit or miss. Especially as 1080p becomes more affordable and "cheap" 1080p sets come out, the first thing to be downgraded will be the internal processing and therefore the quality of the deinterlacer...I think I've already asked this, but how much more processor intensive (approx.) is 1080i deinterlacing compared to for example 480i deinterlacing?
Today, many cheaper displays have worse deinterlacers than for example a $200 DVD player. With 1080p sets I'd think the deinterlacer could be among those somponents that might not be given such a high priority, because obviously it's expected that the source already is capable of said interlacing.
There are expections of course, like my Optoma HD72i (have I said that projector, and the image it throws is absolutely lovely and bright without being washed out) that is much better at deinterlacing and scaling a 576i DVD image than my Pioneer DV-696 player, which isn't the worst in the market for affordable players either.
Today, many cheaper displays have worse deinterlacers than for example a $200 DVD player. With 1080p sets I'd think the deinterlacer could be among those somponents that might not be given such a high priority, because obviously it's expected that the source already is capable of said interlacing.
There are expections of course, like my Optoma HD72i (have I said that projector, and the image it throws is absolutely lovely and bright without being washed out) that is much better at deinterlacing and scaling a 576i DVD image than my Pioneer DV-696 player, which isn't the worst in the market for affordable players either.
Blah, the solution is for 120Hz to become the new standard, that would really solve the issue with 24/30/60
I think I have seen a couple people that could tell the difference, but only because it was fast action and on a large 100" screen. I'd be willing to bet that people on 32" and under might not even see the difference between 1080p/i and 720p. They both look great!
If I ever see this line on a board like this one ever again, I'm going to break down and cry.
EDIT: though in this particular case (24 frames), assuming that you are not talking about a 72hz tv, you are probably right, also assuming that the TV actually has 1080 scanlines.
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<points a webcam at Arwin>
So, you'll get the exact same picture quality from 1080i as you will from 1080p.
So, you'll get the exact same picture quality from 1080i as you will from 1080p.
Depends
I'm sure some TVs would still give you some niggles with fast motion that you wouldn't get from a straight 1080p signal.
I'm sure some TVs would still give you some niggles with fast motion that you wouldn't get from a straight 1080p signal.
I explicitly qualified my statement with "source material <= 30fps", that would include all movies (barring IMAX).
And wtf is a 72Hz tv?
And that is besides the point anyway. The TV set gets the entire movie frame as two consecutive fields, reconstructing the frame is a solved problem.Cheers
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My monitor does 72 Hz, and has a built in TV tuner...does that count?
My monitor does 72 Hz, and has a built in TV tuner...does that count?
Does watching movies on this set look like a horrible de-interlace artifact mess ?
Cheers
Most LCDs have a "refresh rate" of 72Hz. It's not like a CRT refresh rate, but that's what is quoted in most if not all LCDs.
Some new HDTVs have 100Hz "processing" or "refresh rate". More of a PR refresh rate than anything to be honest but i digress.
Some new HDTVs have 100Hz "processing" or "refresh rate". More of a PR refresh rate than anything to be honest but i digress.
It's an early flatpanel TV/monitor that was actually given me, and TV on it is bad in soooo many ways
scooby_dooby
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Mmm i'm sure there is more to it that that or no one woul dbother with 1080p, no?
Well then the marketing guys wouldn't have anything to sell us would they! The cycle must never stop!
I don't think there is much more to it than that, perhaps there will be a noticeable different between de-interlaced 1080p and true 1080p, but I really doubt that most humans will be able to see it. I don't really have any experience viewing 1080p sets so I'm just guessing here, but as Gubbi says, the problem of deinterlacing a 1080i image is already solved, so this really should not be an issue.
Whether future 1080p sets will cheap out on the interlacer, or whether that is even an issue, who can say? I doubt it though, much of the HDTV content will still come in 1080i so I think the sets will continue to support it. For example, ABC broadcasts in 720p and 1080i, not 1080p. Discovery HD is also 1080i.
This is taken from the DiscoveryHD FAQ:
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