PS3 delayed in Europe until September 07? (CVG)

london-boy said:
I mean, shouldn't it go the other way around? Until CVG can prove their claim, then we should just assume PS3 is on track. Why should Sony "prove" that the article (using the term loosely here) is wrong, other than telling us that PS3 is not delayed?

Now, i'm not disputing that it might actually be delayed, i mean i'd be the LAST to be surprised, i just don't like the fact that when one silly website comes out with a crazy rumour like that, people will just believe it at face value...
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Just like we should have never questioned the Spring 2006 launch, World Wide Launch in Fall 2006, 4M units in CY 2006, 2M units in CY 2006, RSX/GDDR3 downclock, whether Motorstorm E3 2005 trailer was realtime, and so forth :p This would sure be a boring place!

Obviously we should NOT just believe this site out of hand, but there are enough square pegs for square holes to at least consider the possibility. Oh, and someone told me this exact same thing last week on the down low as a strong rumor... CVG just pronounces what others are have already been hearing. Is it legit? We don't know yet, but all the observable evidence gives this rumor some legs unlike much of the other mucking junk that we should just outright dismiss.
 
Ostepop said:
Baten, i dont know what kind of technical knowledge you posses, but Killzone 2 to look exactly like the E3 05 demo, is IMPOSSIBLE to do in realtime at that framerate. All you need to do is look at the amount of AA used, NO PS3 games will have 8x or more AntiAliasing. Its not possible if you want it to look reasonably good and have a framerate higher than 10fps.

Its not possible, because the PS3 doesnt have enough bandwidth to play around with that high AA numbers, amongst other things.

Please, dont even try to argue that blah blah blah, killzone with enough dev time put into the PS3, that works on GameFAQs, not here. We know whats impossible (for the most part) and Killzone 2, to look and play exactly as that trailer, is impossible.
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My technical knowledge is to small to be mentioned, especially here. I will not argue anything, especially not using "blah" words, but maybe you could point me to the root of the collective knowledge that certifies this imposibility, and I am not reffering to 8x AA since I do not think more than 2X will be needed in 1080p for a game to look at it's best.

From what I have seen - even GofW its pretty close in grafic display to the E3-05 Killzone2 trailer.

But we are digressing from the OP.
 
Acert93 said:
Just like we should have never questioned the Spring 2006 launch, World Wide Launch in Fall 2006, 4M units in CY 2006, 2M units in CY 2006, RSX/GDDR3 downclock, whether Motorstorm E3 2005 trailer was realtime, and so forth :p This would sure be a boring place!

Obviously we should NOT just believe this site out of hand, but there are enough square pegs for square holes to at least consider the possibility. Oh, and someone told me this exact same thing last week on the down low as a strong rumor... CVG just pronounces what others are have already been hearing. Is it legit? We don't know yet, but all the observable evidence gives this rumor some legs unlike much of the other mucking junk that we should just outright dismiss.
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Well the difference this time is that PS3's are out, albeit in small numbers. 600k are out (on ebay), and that's 3 weeks after launch. I don't see how things can get so bad between now an March, that's 10 more weeks, to force Sony to delay in Europe.

If they delay in Europe, it won't be for supply issues but for silly "strategies" (the -wrong- ones telling them that they could release in 2009 in Europe and still be market leader).

We can discuss, of course, but i just had the impression that people were just believing the CVG article at face value - it's not as bad as believing TheInq at face value, but it's almost there...

And i was getting another feeling that just because Sony said the article was not true, that was proof that the delay IS real, just because they happen to have denied delays in the past. I mean, of course they will say it's not delayed. Just because Sony denied lots of things in the past, doesn't mean they lie about everything all the time. One day PS3 WILL come out in Europe, so i guess Sony won't lie about that, whenever that is. I'm sure people will still find that they're lying, even when they have a PS3 in front of them.
 
Sony has opened the Playstation3 Network online ID registration for Europe. link

There is a phrase that caught my attention:

"Once you have registered your Online ID, you will need to activate it by using it at least once from your PS3 before 31 March 2008, otherwise it may be withdrawn."

31 March could be the date.
 
baten said:
Sony has opened the Playstation3 Network online ID registration for Europe. link

There is a phrase that caught my attention:

"Once you have registered your Online ID, you will need to activate it by using it at least once from your PS3 before 31 March 2008, otherwise it may be withdrawn."

31 March could be the date.
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May I divert your attention to the bolded and colored number? I hope you're not thaking THAT date as the release date! ;)
 
baten said:
My technical knowledge is to small to be mentioned, especially here. I will not argue anything, especially not using "blah" words, but maybe you could point me to the root of the collective knowledge that certifies this imposibility, and I am not reffering to 8x AA since I do not think more than 2X will be needed in 1080p for a game to look at it's best.

From what I have seen - even GofW its pretty close in grafic display to the E3-05 Killzone2 trailer.

But we are digressing from the OP.
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It is impossible. Honestly just take it as that. Or, if you prefer, do a search on these forums. The issue has been brought up many times. And please don't mention 2xAA and 1080P in the same sentence as Killzone CG graphic fidelity. Comparing that Killzone CG to the actual game is basically going to be like comparing Halo 3 to the recent halo 3 cg trailer. Of course this is conjecture and OT.
 
Dr Evil said:
That is incorrect... FF9 was released on February 2001 in Europe. PS2 was released in November 2000...However FF9 certainly didn't collect any dust in house as the PS2 games at that time were not very good. As for the FF12 release date, I think the date is not yet announced for Europe
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You're right, I remembered it wrong. Indeed the FFIX was released after PS2 launch in eu.
 
rabidrabbit said:
You're right, I remembered it wrong. Indeed the FFIX was released after PS2 launch in eu.
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It's ok just don't do it again...
j/k :LOL:
Anyways at the time of FF9 release, it was still quite hard to get PS2 in Finland so it was nice that Playstation fans had something to do while waiting for the PS2 supply to reach good levels. This time PS2 will get even more support after it's successor has come out, with FF12 and God of War 2, I dunno if there is more...
 
Dr Evil said:
It's ok just don't do it again...
j/k :LOL:
Anyways at the time of FF9 release, it was still quite hard to get PS2 in Finland so it was nice that Playstation fans had something to do while waiting for the PS2 supply to reach good levels. This time PS2 will get even more support after it's successor has come out, with FF12 and God of War 2, I dunno if there is more...
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There is also a new Burnout coming exclusively on the PS2 (and PSP).
 
100% confident it will be a paper launch in March in Europe. Sony will guarantee the world it will launch then, then push something like 80,000 at launch lol.
 
superNoid said:
100% confident it will be a paper launch in March in Europe. Sony will guarantee the world it will launch then, then push something like 80,000 at launch lol.
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100% confident aye? :)
in that case would u mind placing a bet only $100US, im serious, we can work out something email me (check my sig)
 
superNoid said:
100% confident it will be a paper launch in March in Europe. Sony will guarantee the world it will launch then, then push something like 80,000 at launch lol.
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I highly doubt that Sony doesn't have the ability to launch with way more than 80,000. Its not like March is typical month of high sales in the US and Japan. At worst, Sony can simply divert half of the US and Japan monthly shipments to Europe and get more than 80,000.
 
superNoid said:
100% confident it will be a paper launch in March in Europe. Sony will guarantee the world it will launch then, then push something like 80,000 at launch lol.
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That makes sense... They've shipped 300k in Japan and 500k in the US in 4 weeks. So it makes perfect sense that they would have 80k for European launch, 4 months from now, seeing how they're shipping about 80-100k units per week now worldwide...



(don't think i need to put smileys to help convey the sarcasm in that comment....)
 
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