You do that.....
Unless AMD can make a GPU that offers 7950 performance at 7850 price, power consumption and heat levels its not going to happen.
Even an 8850 doesn't offer 7950 performance.
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You do that.....
Unless AMD can make a GPU that offers 7950 performance at 7850 price, power consumption and heat levels its not going to happen.
Even an 8850 doesn't offer 7950 performance.
I dont know about you, but I cant wait for 9th generation of consoles and their ~20-30 TF preformance.[more precisely, discussions about their architecture
What generation we on now?
But MS is not putting a PC card, the price is not the same.
Of course it is, card vendors only pay for the die as they have there.own PCB.
Same thing for console, they'll have there own PCB and will just be paying for the die.
They might save a tiny bit but using a big GPU meens a more complex PCB and more power phases and components.
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Volume and long term prospects, so not really.
The fabs aren't starving for business by any means. MS will get some discounts, sure, but they can't throw around die space and yield demands like they're nothing.
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bobcat HC in the middle, looks the goods, each Compute unit is designed to have snoop handled by the L2. IPC over bobcat is 15% average more if a single core has all the L2 to itself. 10% clock over bobcat from uarch more possible from process.
7th. Upcoming nextgen consoles will be 8th generation of home consoles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_games
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Blazkowicz
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well let's count
1. Pong clones and other dedicated hardware (with light gun game, squash etc.)
these tended to use hardwired logic instead of a CPU.
2. Atari VCS, Coleco and Intellivision
3. NES, Master System
4. Genesis, PC Engine, SNES
5. PSX, Saturn, N64
6. PS2 etc.
7. Xbox 360 etc.
Where you fit a 3DO or Jaguar, and a bunch of other failed stuff, that's left as an exercise
Thanks for the link, very informative presentation. Wish I had seen it sooner.
Interesting that he claims that Jaguar is the only AMD core he knows of that has an inclusive L2. I think this is a reference to the fact that Bulldozer/Piledriver's L2 cache is not actually strictly inclusive but only mostly inclusive. Like pointed out this has implications for what's necessary to service snoops.
Even though they're weaker than the rest, they still belong in the 5th generation of consoles, seeing as they're far beyond the SNES-era of sprites-and-character-mapped playfield-based hardware.Where you fit a 3DO or Jaguar, and a bunch of other failed stuff, that's left as an exercise
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I don't know if this has been mentioned before in this thread, but Sony just sent out invitations for a "Playstation Event" for the end of February.
It could be the PS4, a new version of the Vita hardware (Vita phone with Android?) or just some actual attention to the Vita in the form of games, working remote play, apps, etc.
Ideally, it could be all three. Worst case scenario is they pull another E3 2012 and only announce games for the PS3, dealing a finishing blow on the Vita and pushing themselves into the end of the race.
It could be the PS4, a new version of the Vita hardware (Vita phone with Android?) or just some actual attention to the Vita in the form of games, working remote play, apps, etc.
Ideally, it could be all three. Worst case scenario is they pull another E3 2012 and only announce games for the PS3, dealing a finishing blow on the Vita and pushing themselves into the end of the race.
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That event is for retailers . Sony will hold a playstation meeting like the unveiling of NGP before e3 .
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Agreed. But they were weird and sadly more remembered for the crap than the gems.
A PC based console would have been nice. Use an AMD 486 DX/2, partner with some chipset maker like Opti which can make the chipset, local bus but also the graphics and audio (well you may end up with OPL3 synth).
Savegames on PCMCIA type I memory cards, maybe.
Clock it at 80MHz if you can, have 4MB main RAM + 512kB graphics RAM. Down with the stupid hardware (especially the Jaguar wreck), we'll push pixels to a dumb framebuffer instead
.It would have run a lot of stuff (flat 3D, gouraud 3D, mapped 3D, FMV, voxels, 2D, raycasting..) Master of all trades, jack of none. Well I'm pushing it but a good 486 could run a lot of stuff that also were on the PSX and Saturn.
Would have it been too expensive (with some L2 on the mainboard), maybe.
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