Predict: The Next Generation Console Tech

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Don' think that will effect the Durango hardware,and #2 AMD guy said Kinect 2/V2/2.0/whatever will have standalone version,that means it will not be required for Durango(if what he said is true).

Plus has any hardcore(from internet) ever pleased Microsoft hardware?

Anyway i bet the Durango OS will use less power than PS4 OS
I don't know who this guy works for, but employees for a semiconductor component supplier won't know anything about Microsoft's plan for Kinect.
 
I don't know who this guy works for, but employees for a semiconductor component supplier won't know anything about Microsoft's plan for Kinect.
Hard to say,you know not only him,lots of rumors from form AMD also come with some Kinect "news":LOL:
But really,don't think AMD don't know any future plan about Durango,even maybe only few lines from a document.
 
I don't know who this guy works for, but employees for a semiconductor component supplier won't know anything about Microsoft's plan for Kinect.
They would know if they were also supplying an ASIC or a small processor that goes into the kinect, to put the processing cost into the accessory instead of the console.
 
...and so could sweetvar26, what's different between the two?
Probably because Sweetvar26 was first to give legit codenames, Jaguar CPU info and 8 core 1.6Ghz CPU in Durango. Also, he didn't edit his post, they where removed and deleted from google cache.
 
Based on rumors from websites, not from postings on forums:

"Durango 2 to 3 times Playstation Omni"

Assuming Orbis to be 1.8TF, 2X1.8TF = 3.6TF
3X1.8TF = 5.4TF

"Second most powerful pc on the market today"

Most powerful would be Radeon HD7990. The second most powerful would be GTX-690.
GTX-690, according to Wikipedia is 2810X2 gflops = 5620 gflops or 5.6 TF

The two rumor seem to agree on the 5 TF part.

The HD8970 is rumored to be 5.38 TF
 
Based on [fanboy wet dreams and fantasy], not from postings on forums:

"Durango 2 to 3 times Playstation Omni"

Assuming Orbis to be 1.8TF, 2X1.8TF = 3.6TF
3X1.8TF = 5.4TF

"Second most powerful pc on the market today"

Most powerful would be Radeon HD7990. The second most powerful would be GTX-690.
GTX-690, according to Wikipedia is 2810X2 gflops = 5620 gflops or 5.6 TF

The two rumor seem to agree on the 5 TF part.

The HD8970 is rumored to be 5.38 TF

Corrected for accuracy ;)
 
Based on rumors from websites, not from postings on forums:

"Durango 2 to 3 times Playstation Omni"

Assuming Orbis to be 1.8TF, 2X1.8TF = 3.6TF
3X1.8TF = 5.4TF

"Second most powerful pc on the market today"

Most powerful would be Radeon HD7990. The second most powerful would be GTX-690.
GTX-690, according to Wikipedia is 2810X2 gflops = 5620 gflops or 5.6 TF

The two rumor seem to agree on the 5 TF part.

The HD8970 is rumored to be 5.38 TF

Wrong.... most powerful PC would be mine, 7970 quad-fire...

A 7990 doesn't exist and is not the most powerful.

You really need to wake up, you're comparing £1000 PC GPU's to a console.

A 7950/7970 and a 8950/8970 will consume more power then either Sony and Microsoft budgeted for and then there's the heat out put.

Its not going to happen so get it into your head already.

I thought this thread got passed this day dreaming non sense.
 
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Every machine that's every launched is backed by a posse of people expecting way too much, and it doesn't matter how much they are told otherwise. There must be, must be, some special something that makes this collection of circuits and doodads far better than the rest of the world's technology level. The only way an uber console will see the light of day is at an uber pricepoint or an uber loss to the company. It really is that simple, perhaps so simple that some have trouble believing it.
 
I'm not backing any rumors, but xenos is theoretically ~250GF while an x800 of the time was less than 200GF
ok, completely different architectures, but maybe some rumor is right and in the TF numbers adds a new architecture due on pc after 2014 with the cpu numbers
Sony and Microsoft must give some reference to developers even before any kit, and soon or later some info will slip, the problem is that at the moment we have no way to know it

where's surfer girl when you need her?
 
from Live Journal:

"targeting 8970"
Why are you placnig any faith in this source? It's an anonymous, random website, no different to any anonymous, random forum poster, quite probably parroting random tweets and forum posts. The only valid sources are those from trusted websites like EG who ask their developer friends and aren't just parroting internet rumour, and those with proven track records. Everything else is good as a blind guess, even if they later be proven right (which coud be coincidence as much as insider info). Hence, we do not know what is going into Durango or Orbis at this point.
 
Wrong.... most powerful PC would be mine, 7970 quad-fire...

A 7990 doesn't exist and is not the most powerful.

You really need to wake up, you're comparing £1000 PC GPU's to a console.

A 7950/7970 and a 8950/8970 will consume more power then either Sony and Microsoft budgeted for and then there's the heat out put.

Its not going to happen so get it into your head already.

I thought this thread got passed this day dreaming non sense.

Obviously not............

Another rumour:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/383978/features/2013-preview-playstation-and-xbox/?page=1

And they'd better make their release dates because reliable sources suggest Microsoft will announce their next-generation Xbox at their annual showcase in February. They'll make their play for the next generation alongside Epic, Forza developers Turn 10, Alan Wake developers Remedy and Lionhead's Fable team.

The timing seems about right. I'd expect it to be more of sneek peek type reveal. I can't find an exact date yet, however most of the other showcases have been at the end of Feb.

The question then is, what does Sony do? Do they do the same but a week earlier and try to dampen MS thunder or a week later and try to be the last word in the run up to E3? One thing they don't want to do is have the xbox720 the only story in town for 3-4 months.
 
Didn't Microsoft lock down their offices a little while back with strict NDA's? So why would anyone know anything including any of the sources brought up in these threads?

I can really understand why there would be people hoping super powered consoles, i really do. But they should really understand that the true anticipation of the next Xbox/PS4 should be from what devs can actually accomplish in games from the much higher lowest common denominator threshold compared to current generation consoles.

We can assume that there will be certain customizations for ergonomics and what have you compared to an off the shelf part(atleast from how Aegis puts it) to make it flow much better in a closed box.

But as Crytek said, they will still be comparable to today's single GPU configurations. You are only going to get those kind of pie in the sky 4, 5, 6 tflop theoretical computations from dual GPU set ups right now in a PC.

Actually expecting that sort of thing in a console coming out next year is just setting yourself up for disappointment and its your own fault if you fall for that kind of ridiculous scenario, the box would quite simply set on fire and burn your house down.

As for me, i'm hoping for a lot but not expecting much in order to keep my expectations tempered. That general Durango rumor of a 1.2 to 1.5 tflop GPU with 2 to 4 GB of DDR3 ram is what i'll be expecting to be unveiled next year.

That is of course, until Microsoft pleasantly surprises me and goes for something in the mid to high tflop range with 6 to 8 GB of DDR4.

Either way i'll be pretty happy to see a jump from what we have now considering that i'm still pretty impressed with what can be done with 7 year old hardware.
 
Why would Sony care if MS announced 9 months before launch instead of 6? That's just that much longer to maintain buzz. I really don't see any logic to announcing earlier than absolutely necessary. It offers little advantage. Most consumers still won't pay any attention until the product advertising starts for real.
 
yes, times are sad, if wonder if some people expect consoles to still be magically better but it isn't 1991 anymore where a 386SX PC would cost a ton but didn't support sprites and sound, so it got its ass handed over it by a SNES with a bad CPU and a lot less memory.
 
yes, times are sad, if wonder if some people expect consoles to still be magically better but it isn't 1991 anymore where a 386SX PC would cost a ton but didn't support sprites and sound, so it got its ass handed over it by a SNES with a bad CPU and a lot less memory.

Well again, is that such a big deal? I mean even the 360 and PS3 didn't completely destroy high end PC's that were out at the time, but it seemed like a decent jump in processing power to me.

Its all about what the devs are targeting for games. if they are targeting 2005 consoles, then your going to get 2005 results even on high end hardware(albeit with bells and whistles like certain DX settings, better IQ ect)

But if we're moving to 2012 hardware in a closed box, then devs target that. Its still a huge cause for celebration, the base jump in fidelity from the added CPU/GPU and RAM power.

Of course i should not have to tell you guys that, your supposed to be tech wizards.
 
But as Crytek said, they will still be comparable to today's single GPU configurations. You are only going to get those kind of pie in the sky 4, 5, 6 tflop theoretical computations from dual GPU set ups right now in a PC.

You can get 4tflop SP from a 7970 Ghz Edition.

My 4x 7970's are running at 1.3Ghz each so one could argue that I have over 16+tflops of SP performance.
 
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