Possible picture of Xenon PGR3 ??

Shifty Geezer said:
Aw, you were getting me all excited! I thought I'd see some uber-pics, but what's to get excited about? These could easily be done in real-time. GI maps baked onto the cars and a prerendered 2D backdrop. Looks no better to GT4 save perhaps some AA.

I don't know if those are game shots or not, but they definitely look better that GT4!
 
It doesn't LOOK THAT much better than gt4 ,but it IS still way better (as car a model) .
Still ,you could render that in realtime even on ps2 ,but not every frame. But for one picture we only need 1 frame ,whatever the time it took to render.
 
Someone had to bring up GT4 in a racing game thread yet again...

We should wait to see PGR3, FORZA2, RSC3 on Xenon and compare it to GT5.
 
I seriously don't see the point of comparing a picture from a next-gen game, which by the way we're not even sure it's realtime, with GT4 wich is a current-gen game.

Technically this picture look SO much better it's not even funny.
Artistically or design-choice-wise, it's all subjective i think, like today some people prefer GT4 for its dramatic looks or 60fps, and others prefer PGR2 cause it's more tecnhically advanced (though it runs at half the framerate)...

Let's compare PGR3 with a next gen GT game, i think it's a fairer comparison.

Having said that, if next gen the average racing game looks like that, i'll be very happy. You can't really see much from these screens but you can already see the car detail is astounding.
 
london-boy said:
I seriously don't see the point of comparing a picture from a next-gen game, which by the way we're not even sure it's realtime, with GT4 wich is a current-gen game.

Quoted for the truth!

We all know next gen games, on all three systems, will look better than this gens offerings. PGR3 is going to give GT4 a swift kick between the legs.... but.... BUT, that is irrelevant. Lets compare PGR3 to GT5... and before we can do that lets get real screenshots of the final version of the released game running on the launch HW. No mock ups, no rendered "demo" examples, no emulators--just the real deal. Until we see actual software running on finalized HW there is nothing really to talk about from a, "Wow this rocks" standpoint. At E3, unless we see that the software is being PLAYED (not a movie) on a real final speced console it is worthless to talk about visually.

/me puts on his hazard suit as he awaits the slew of commentary on game shots that are not really game shots (i.e. uber high res, insane AA, post render photoshop editing, running on developer kits, emulators, or over speced HW, and so forth).
 
Looks nice, but is it likely that textues could be anyway near that sharpe close up on the next geb consoles :?: Especially with 256Mb RAM.
 
... Also, considering GT5, or whatever the first G game on PS3 will be called, will come out in 2014 (I'm using the standard Polyphony Digital Delay Table 2.1b (TM)), i'm not even sure it's fair to comapre it to PGR3 which will likely be a launch game on Xbox2. :devilish:
 
london-boy said:
... Also, considering GT5, or whatever the first G game on PS3 will be called, will come out in 2014 (I'm using the standard Polyphony Digital Delay Table 2.1b (TM)), i'm not even sure it's fair to comapre it to PGR3 which will likely be a launch game on Xbox2. :devilish:

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Goodness, what a pugnatious bunch! Always looking for a fight. I wasn't praising GT4 or anything, just commenting on what these pictures show in relation to current generation graphics.

They show close-ups, with reflections, detailed geometry, and apparent GI lighting. Is this impressive for next-gen? I don't think so. I compare it to GT4 as that's what I know. If I owned an XB I'd be comparing them to PGR instead. Yeah, current gen is lower poly, lower texture res, but it has the same features. All this pic shows is the SAME tech as now, only higher-res (Ahhh, it's High-Definition!!!)

Do you not think any existing console, if it gave over all it's resources to one car, could not produce similar quality now? Point being, this screenshot in my mind isn't impressive. It doesn't show anything current-gen couldn't do at a push. To impress, show large, detailed sceneries. Show me night scenes with realistic headlights. Show me detailed cars, lots of em, not just one.

If next-gen is nothing more than current gen in highres, which is all these pics show, it's gonna be a big let-down! Do you all think differently? Are you all going to be happy with exactly the same as we have now except at 720p and higher-res textures?
 
so what features u want to put on next gen car?

ultra square to power 3 timpon xxtac divalala teeloop soft spot lights? sound impressive, gota be impressive.

i more simpler. i see that pic, i see easy it destroy gt4 even photo mode. i happy next gen 1st gen. in happy team as well. :D
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Goodness, what a pugnatious bunch! Always looking for a fight. I wasn't praising GT4 or anything, just commenting on what these pictures show in relation to current generation graphics.

They show close-ups, with reflections, detailed geometry, and apparent GI lighting. Is this impressive for next-gen? I don't think so. I compare it to GT4 as that's what I know. If I owned an XB I'd be comparing them to PGR instead. Yeah, current gen is lower poly, lower texture res, but it has the same features. All this pic shows is the SAME tech as now, only higher-res (Ahhh, it's High-Definition!!!)

Do you not think any existing console, if it gave over all it's resources to one car, could not produce similar quality now? Point being, this screenshot in my mind isn't impressive. It doesn't show anything current-gen couldn't do at a push. To impress, show large, detailed sceneries. Show me night scenes with realistic headlights. Show me detailed cars, lots of em, not just one.

If next-gen is nothing more than current gen in highres, which is all these pics show, it's gonna be a big let-down! Do you all think differently? Are you all going to be happy with exactly the same as we have now except at 720p and higher-res textures?

If anything, you seem the one wanting a "fight"...

All we're saying is that even though those pics show nothing really, we can rest assured that next gen games will look an order of magnitude better than current gen ones.

Obviously they will just be "bigger and better", higher poly counts, higher res textures and reflections, more realistic lighting, what more do you want? Ensuite bathroom? (Imagine me saying that with a Jewish accent, waving hands)

Read the lips, you - ain't - gonna - get - Tyrannosaurus - Rex - Realtime -Raytracing - Ranger - Power.
 
I agree with Shifty - If it wasn't a Ferrari that could easily be GT4.

You can't say it is better graphics just by looking at a small part of the car closeup, until we see the whole car or a shot of the track we won't know how good it looks.

Although the reflections do look quite nice.
 
Love_In_Rio said:
http://ourcolony.net/images/logos/gamem8ker.jpg :oops: :oops:

That looks like crap. Or Cell shading. Just a dubious amount of AA applied to gloss the picture up...
Or maybe it's just because there's nothing to be reflected on the car... Looks bland.
 
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