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I haven't play this game in ages. I didn't end up picking up the TS500 Wheel like I had plan because GT5 frame rate is really bad and gave me motion sickness. So I hope they fixed the frame rate, hell I take crappier graphic for locked 60 fps frame rate in this upcoming update.

I hope they'll add support for the new Fanatec CSW wheel, I am getting that one instead now, since it seems to be better build compare to TS500.
 
I haven't play this game in ages. I didn't end up picking up the TS500 Wheel like I had plan because GT5 frame rate is really bad and gave me motion sickness. So I hope they fixed the frame rate, hell I take crappier graphic for locked 60 fps frame rate in this upcoming update.

I hope they'll add support for the new Fanatec CSW wheel, I am getting that one instead now, since it seems to be better build compare to TS500.

Did you fix the resolution to 720p? Because if you're really sensitive to tearing / framerate issues, then 720p should give you a much better experience than 1080p (I personally have no issues with either)
 
http://www.gtplanet.net/red-bull-x2010s-for-all-if-vettel-wins-2011-f1-championship/

Fulfilling his pledge to make important Twitter posts in English, Kazunori Yamauchi has just announced some interesting plans if Sebastian Vettel wins the 2011 F1 World Championship:

Kazunori said:
If Sebastian Vettel becomes the winner of the F1 World Championship title in the Oct. 9 Formula 1 Suzuka GP, To commemorate Vettel’s 2 year consecutive world championship title, We’ll give away the “Red Bull X2010 S.Vettel” color, TO EVERYONE WHO LOGS ONTO GT5 WITHIN 1WK FROM VETTEL’S VICTORY…
 
Its important that they are working on some significant DLC now that F4 is closing by.

Its been a year and we havent seen any real DLC for GT5. We were hoping for the appearance of other tracks (old and new) after some leak of photos from their studios but nothing. And there are lots of important cars missing (or at least their premium versions) that F4 will have.

Has PD considered competition and what fans want? DLC is one of the most important aspects and a certainty for the consumer, that so far PD has neglected

So you are saying that some wont buy GT5 because FM4 is coming? But a spec 2 plus DLC might change that? The game is as you say almost a year old i don´t see where the competition is except the internet wars :)

The game was and is stuffed with content and a lot to do at launch. And since the release there has been a steady release of new challenges and minor tweaks and additions to the game. I have not bought a game in recent times that have given so much value for money :)
 
So you are saying that some wont buy GT5 because FM4 is coming? But a spec 2 plus DLC might change that? The game is as you say almost a year old i don´t see where the competition is except the internet wars :)

The game was and is stuffed with content and a lot to do at launch. And since the release there has been a steady release of new challenges and minor tweaks and additions to the game. I have not bought a game in recent times that have given so much value for money :)

Someone who is still deciding between the two yes there is a high chance he wont buy GT5. But regardless of whether someone will buy it or not, we d like to see some refreshing additions like new tracks and premium cars in it.

Also there is a "competition" between the two franchises themselves, and both of them would want to prove they are the best. Each is trying to do that by building on the weaknesses of the other. And they will highlight that.
 
Someone who is still deciding between the two yes there is a high chance he wont buy GT5. But regardless of whether someone will buy it or not, we d like to see some refreshing additions like new tracks and premium cars in it.

Also there is a "competition" between the two franchises themselves, and both of them would want to prove they are the best. Each is trying to do that by building on the weaknesses of the other. And they will highlight that.

If someone is undecided on what game to get one year after GT5 they don´t really count in masses. Any racing fan with a little respect for themselves would have bought GT5 by now.

If you are talking about new customers to 360 vs PS3 i think it takes more than FM4 vs GT5 to decide.

Finally the internal competition, there is one for sure. American developers shouting they make the best and humble Japanese developers that does not shout :)
 
If someone is undecided on what game to get one year after GT5 they don´t really count in masses. Any racing fan with a little respect for themselves would have bought GT5 by now.

If you are talking about new customers to 360 vs PS3 i think it takes more than FM4 vs GT5 to decide.

Finally the internal competition, there is one for sure. American developers shouting they make the best and humble Japanese developers that does not shout :)

Respect has nothing to do with it. There are people that like to wait. Even those that bought GT5 already may buy FZ4 later and might like it more and may change the way they see the franchises in the future

There is a slow shift of "popularity" share and preference. As time passes depending on how well each builds on the strengths and weaknesses of the other the less it will take for the car fanatic to decide. At some point he may even decide to give up on one of the two as the franchises evolve

PD cant always retain the "throne" infinitely by ignoring competition's efforts and the fact that competition is building on core areas that they didnt
 
I'm def one that keeps his 360 practically for FM only. ;) So in that sense it has some influence
 
Respect has nothing to do with it. There are people that like to wait. Even those that bought GT5 already may buy FZ4 later and might like it more and may change the way they see the franchises in the future

There is a slow shift of "popularity" share and preference. As time passes depending on how well each builds on the strengths and weaknesses of the other the less it will take for the car fanatic to decide. At some point he may even decide to give up on one of the two as the franchises evolve

PD cant always retain the "throne" infinitely by ignoring competition's efforts and the fact that competition is building on core areas that they didnt

I find it extremely unlikely that FM4 will be a major factor in the sales of GT5 since it´s been selling for almost a year. The number of people that haven´t bought GT5 yet must be small compared to the current sales of the title. To suggest that FM4 on a completely other platform should play into sales at this point is a bit of a reach.

I totally agree with the Competition there is between the 2 franchises, but that war is fought on more levels than just the games themselves.
 
I find it extremely unlikely that FM4 will be a major factor in the sales of GT5 since it´s been selling for almost a year. The number of people that haven´t bought GT5 yet must be small compared to the current sales of the title. To suggest that FM4 on a completely other platform should play into sales at this point is a bit of a reach.

I totally agree with the Competition there is between the 2 franchises, but that war is fought on more levels than just the games themselves.

Oh its not just about the sales of GT5 vs F4. Its all about the foundation the set for the future as well and the future sales for the next games ;)
Thats why they dont stop on the simple release of the game disk itself only. Hence you see the updates, the DLC, the game events, they build on the weaknesses of the other, they try to associate game features with real events etc. If one stays behind, the other has stronger foundation. Someone who owns GT5 today may wait to see what competition will offer in the future when GT6 and F5 will be close by if he sees that competition today has showed more attention to detail and more refinement.
 
Not wanting to make a flame war here, but it will be most interesting to see how for example ign reviews updated gt5 against forza4. GT5 vs. forza3 was quite clear case based on numbers(which ofcourse means pretty much nothing on individual level. We all have our own preferences).
 
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Oh its not just about the sales of GT5 vs F4. Its all about the foundation the set for the future as well and the future sales for the next games ;)
Thats why they dont stop on the simple release of the game disk itself only. Hence you see the updates, the DLC, the game events, they build on the weaknesses of the other, they try to associate game features with real events etc. If one stays behind, the other has stronger foundation. Someone who owns GT5 today may wait to see what competition will offer in the future when GT6 and F5 will be close by if he sees that competition today has showed more attention to detail and more refinement.

When GT6 comes around we will be at FM6 or FM7 :)
Both have established themselves as the number 1 racing game their platform and again it will be a minimum of people that would actually have both consoles just to play one game. I understand what you are saying i just don´t think the impact is so big. Now if one of the games truely sucked i might be different :)


Not wanting to make a flame war here, but it will be most interesting to see how for example ign reviews updated gt5 against forza4. GT5 vs. forza3 was quite clear case based on numbers(which ofcourse means pretty much nothing on individual level. We all have our own preferences).

I expect FM4 to get higher scores, it simply has more "features" which always makes scores go up, reviews for games like this is just flawed.

When it comes to pure racing enjoyment i rate GT5 at 11 out of 10. When it comes to being a "modern game" with career mode, "rice up features" and stuff like that it just fails. But imho i would much rather have a better racing game than the other features. They just don´t make the game last as long as the pure racing has done for me.
 
The reviewers were looking to GT5 to redefine nextgen racing. It reused the same formula but with better graphics, physics, driving mechanics, etc. That's why the press were disappointed.

Polyphony will need to surprise these people in Spec 2.0 with unexpected (new) features -- if Sony want to create more hype.
 
The Press was disappointed because the game had been delayed so long, but there was still some hope that it was due to perfectionism. When the game finally came out it was full of imperfections, missing features and far from perfect.
 
The Press was disappointed because the game had been delayed so long, but there was still some hope that it was due to perfectionism. When the game finally came out it was full of imperfections, missing features and far from perfect.

:yes: It's a case of trying to do too much, coupled with confusing messages from Polyphony and Sony. All the individual features seem to be come together too late. As a result, the damage, premium car model, environmental effects, game modes, AI, etc, were not consistent across the board.

I think gamers expect premium car models, realistic driving physics, human-like AI and detailed damage to be the key features of nextgen gaming. GT5 delivered partially, but also include environmental effects, and other bells and whistles.

Unfortunately, people focused mostly on the low points because of the long development time, and Polyphony's reputation. I think the slow UI alone generated a lot of complains.


EDIT: I am very curious what Polyphony and Sony intend to do with Spec 2.0.
 
Actually at first, people were expecting GT 5: Prologue with more cars and tracks, no one though about rollover, damage visual and performance [it was delayed unfortunately, but not for long], night to day transition or weather effects, track generator, good online [its great! i played ton of it], full b-spec mode, X1 school, special events with great Kart racing and Nascar implementation [this counts more than livery editor for car enthusiasts, trust me - i have never thought that Nascar is so fun to play, especially online] and many more like seasonal events [which are awesome].

Yep they dropped a ball on some things, like lack of leaderboard for all cars and tracks similar to Prologue [dunno why, but there must be a reason] or things that got erased like fast forward mode in replays or headtracking in AI/online racing because of memory constrains.

Still GT 5 was and for me is, the most content reach game ever released on consoles and achieve it with perfect gameplay.
 
Yes, yes, the challenges and events are immersive and fun. The packaging and integration need some more work. Hopefully Spec 2.0 can polish GT5 to a spit shine.

My wife finally saw my GT steering wheel yesterday (Well, she saw the box ;-)). Wait till she sees my HMD-TZ1, if I end up buying one. :p
 
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