NPD March 2009

I really liked Painkiller on the PC. Nice graphics, tight controls, and a crap load of enemies. Not sure how it compared to Doom, but I agree there is still a market for this kind of game (if done correctly).
 
Fair enought, but it is that what happened to DSs GTA? It seems just the old game with new levels.

Sales for the old 2d games were a fraction of what GTA3 onwards have been, there's no source sited but wikipedia has GTA1 + expansions down for 1 million each and 2 million for GTA2, compared to 15/20/25 million for GTA3/VC/SA.

The psp games are down for 8 & 5 million, maybe they just completely underestimated the appeal of teh 3d?
 
RE5 sold 938K on the 360 vs 585K on the PS3. I say that a pretty significant gap unless we are talking relative to the user base.
Sorry to burst you're bubble but RE5 sold near enougth about that amount in Japan on the ps3. You need to learn to not be so home centric. I get the feeling people are scared of the ps3. It's been handicapped by price and currencies but when that goes?.
 
Sorry to burst you're bubble but RE5 sold near enougth about that amount in Japan on the ps3. You need to learn to not be so home centric. I get the feeling people are scared of the ps3. It's been handicapped by price and currencies but when that goes?.

I think the re5 has only sold 500k or so in japan , its been off the top ten for awhile from what i gather.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that by the time the ps3 is $200 we will have a new xbox next that is most likely around $300 and it wont really matter because the ps3 will be an old hat and still have to compete with a still cheaper xbox 360 and wii. along with a new xbox.

So i really don't see the threat.


The 360 continues to put up amazing north american numbers when it comes to software and I think thats what alot of people are scared about. The last gen in japan sony was able to sell 50 times what ms was able to sell if not more , this gen they are managing little better than 3 times. This is great for the industry and the consumer , we have multiple viable platforms and if you havne't noticed tehy are all much better than the ps2 was last gen. Online gaming has really kicked off and it was something neither nintendo or sony put much time or effort into last gen.
 
Sorry to burst you're bubble but RE5 sold near enougth about that amount in Japan on the ps3. You need to learn to not be so home centric.

You need to read posts carefully...as BadTB25 was confirming with obonicus when he said the RE5 sold evenly on the PS3 and 360, that was meant to the ratio to install base, but not unit count.
 
Sorry to burst you're bubble but RE5 sold near enougth about that amount in Japan on the ps3. You need to learn to not be so home centric. I get the feeling people are scared of the ps3. It's been handicapped by price and currencies but when that goes?.

And why are we talking about japan/global sales numbers in an NPD thread? NPD threads are 'USA' centric for a reason.
 
I really liked Painkiller on the PC. Nice graphics, tight controls, and a crap load of enemies.
I've only played a few levels, but I didn't like the "enter a room, door closes until all enemies are dead" level structure :smile:
Not sure how it compared to Doom, but I agree there is still a market for this kind of game (if done correctly).
Even if done correctly I doubt a Doom remake will be a big seller. Super Mario All-stars is probably the only plain remake that sold like a major title.
 
I think the re5 has only sold 500k or so in japan , its been off the top ten for awhile from what i gather.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that by the time the ps3 is $200 we will have a new xbox next that is most likely around $300 and it wont really matter because the ps3 will be an old hat and still have to compete with a still cheaper xbox 360 and wii. along with a new xbox.

So i really don't see the threat.


The 360 continues to put up amazing north american numbers when it comes to software and I think thats what alot of people are scared about. The last gen in japan sony was able to sell 50 times what ms was able to sell if not more , this gen they are managing little better than 3 times. This is great for the industry and the consumer , we have multiple viable platforms and if you havne't noticed tehy are all much better than the ps2 was last gen. Online gaming has really kicked off and it was something neither nintendo or sony put much time or effort into last gen.


Nice fanboy rant:LOL:...just kidding

I don't see Microsoft releasing a new console for a while their is no point.
 
Nice fanboy rant:LOL:...just kidding

I don't see Microsoft releasing a new console for a while their is no point.
I think his point don't disagree with your statment in anyway it will be a while before the ps3 hits 199$.
 
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I've only played a few levels, but I didn't like the "enter a room, door closes until all enemies are dead" level structure :smile:

Even if done correctly I doubt a Doom remake will be a big seller. Super Mario All-stars is probably the only plain remake that sold like a major title.

I think the Resident Evil remakes on GCN sold well. WP says REmake sold 1.35 million copies.
 
I think the Resident Evil remakes on GCN sold well. WP says REmake sold 1.35 million copies.
You're right. There's also the Xbox live/PS3 store titles. SFII HD sold a quarter million I think, not impressive but other remakes might have done better.
 
I think his point don't disagree with your statment in anyway it will be a while before the ps3 hits 199$.
Idon't expect it to hit $200 till 2011 but at the very least it will be late 2010 to hit $200.

360 will be old by then. 2011 puts it at a solid 6 holiday season life cycle which is as good as any playstation platform has managed before a new verison has come out.

Its not fan boy rants , its just an accurate vision of the current landscape. The 360 will basicly have to drop off a cliff in terms of hardware sales and software sales for the ps3 to make up much grown.

However in the end its great for us , it will force sony to launch with a price competitive console with a feature competitive online service. In turn ms will have to step up its game over this generation to hold on to any gains they made or to increase their market share next gen.
 
I will admit it will harder for SONY to jump to next gen especially if they don't phase out the ps2 soon. But at the same time it will be history repeating itself if SONY doesn't release in a similar time frame as Microsoft, its one of the reasons Microsoft has such a big lead.
 
I will admit it will harder for SONY to jump to next gen especially if they don't phase out the ps2 soon. But at the same time it will be history repeating itself if SONY doesn't release in a similar time frame as Microsoft, its one of the reasons Microsoft has such a big lead.

well if sony is forced to release a ps4 to keep up with ms then whta happens to the ps3. Esp if the ps2 is still selling and there is a wii and xbox 360 out there. That is why i don't think the ps3 will ever catch up. If ms launches in 2011 sony will either need to launch shortly after or risk falling even further behind.
 
well if sony is forced to release a ps4 to keep up with ms then whta happens to the ps3. Esp if the ps2 is still selling and there is a wii and xbox 360 out there. That is why i don't think the ps3 will ever catch up. If ms launches in 2011 sony will either need to launch shortly after or risk falling even further behind.

Microsoft or any other console maker has to move with the market if people are not ready to drop another couple hundred +dollars on a new system it won't make good business sense. Hell their is still a large sum of people that have not made that jump to the current gen its been a slow start. Also, publishers/developers would have to support an extra system on the market which is tough in the current situation. I just don't see it happening in 2011, I Nintendo is in a better position to make that jump than Microsoft or SONY.
 
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Hell their is still a large sum of people that have not made that jump to the current gen its been a slow start.

I'm not entirely sure that the "slow start" argument is valid. Assuming the "next gen" started with the 360 (though of course there's a years more sales for that platform than the others), there's about 3 1/2 years worth of console sales to look at.

Adding the totals for the Xbox, PS2 and Gamecube, with 3 1/2 years of sales for each platform, you're looking at about 75m consoles sold. Of course, that is heavily weighted by the PS2 with circa 50m consoles sold during that time period.

Now look at the 360, PS3 and Wii and over the same time period there's around 100m consoles sold, but of course, the PS3 and Wii have been on the market a year less. Even taking a pessemistic view, over the next 12 months the PS3 is sure to sell another 10m consoles and the Wii 20m.

So you're looking at 130m consoles verses 75m for the previous generation, which cannot really be considered a "slow start" imho ;)
 
Seen new figures today that 360 Sales are up by 30% since March 2009, must admit without the help of the USA the 360 would not be as strong in the market as it is today.

On the positive side of agenda, Xbox 360 sales are significantly up. Microsoft's console sold 1.7 million systems during the quarter, up nearly 30% from the same period last year. They highlighted improving attach rates of games and accessories for the Xbox 360, claiming that the average owner has 8.3 Xbox 360 games and 3.9 accessories, up from 7.5 games and 3.6 accessories at this time in 2008.

LINK - For the Figures
 
Microsoft or any other console maker has to move with the market if people are not ready to drop another couple hundred +dollars on a new system it won't make good business sense. Hell their is still a large sum of people that have not made that jump to the current gen its been a slow start. Also, publishers/developers would have to support an extra system on the market which is tough in the current situation. I just don't see it happening in 2011, I Nintendo is in a better position to make that jump than Microsoft or SONY.


There are alot of people who stlil haven't bought a ps2. Whats it matter ? As long as MS or any console maker can sell systems and software it shouldn't matter when they move on.

Lets also not forget that they can still have the xbox 360 selling systems and games. 2011 with a $100 xbox 360 and just launching a $300-$400 xbox next would work just fine for them and it would put the ps3 at $200 right smack inbetween.

If ms can take the hardcore gamers again next gen then its all the better for them , the 360 has been a software powerhouse in terms of sales. Ship a next gen console at a good price with no hardware problems and they are in good shape.


I'm not entirely sure that the "slow start" argument is valid. Assuming the "next gen" started with the 360 (though of course there's a years more sales for that platform than the others), there's about 3 1/2 years worth of console sales to look at.

Adding the totals for the Xbox, PS2 and Gamecube, with 3 1/2 years of sales for each platform, you're looking at about 75m consoles sold. Of course, that is heavily weighted by the PS2 with circa 50m consoles sold during that time period.

Now look at the 360, PS3 and Wii and over the same time period there's around 100m consoles sold, but of course, the PS3 and Wii have been on the market a year less. Even taking a pessemistic view, over the next 12 months the PS3 is sure to sell another 10m consoles and the Wii 20m.

So you're looking at 130m consoles verses 75m for the previous generation, which cannot really be considered a "slow start" imho

people only say its a slow start to make hte ps3 look better.

The point is there is a large enough amount of gamres out there willing to pay for a new system with next gen graphics and that pool of people are only going to get bigger as the current gen systems grow older
 
people only say its a slow start to make hte ps3 look better.

Possibly true. It's also possible that many people see the "PS2 = 140m" and expected the PS3 to do the same by now. However, after about the same amount of time on the market, the PS2 had done about 30m and the PS3 is now at about, what, 21 or 22m? So it's not exactly in a position where it can never make that jump to PS2-like figures.

For the other 2 manufacturers, this generation cannot be considered a slow-start whichever way you look at it. Nintendo has quadrupled the amount of consoles sold over a similar time period, and Microsoft is selling about 50% more.
 
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