I've seen someone fitting the cardboard cover they used over the device into his entertainment system. It is bigger than the slim Xbox, not as wide as his TiVo.
Microsoft Xbox Reveal Event - May 21, 2013
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I know. That's all I could think about watching that demo. I will play that game endlessly if it exists. Kinect sports should be really cool on this thing.
I've seen someone fitting the cardboard cover they used over the device into his entertainment system. It is bigger than the slim Xbox, not as wide as his TiVo.
I saw someone do an estimate based on the relative size of the controller. Looked about an inch or two longer than slim but about the same in other dimensions.
Yes I do think they understand PR, its not coincidence that they have articles coming out from gaming and tech sites all across America reiterating their talking points. MS isn't speaking to you they are targeting investors, developers and corporate buyers at retail (Target, Walmart, etc) who will placing orders to move inventory. Hardcore gamers are not their audience, that isn't to say they won't release software which targets hardcore gamers on their platform but it isn't the primary focus anymore.
If I had to guess the delay in their release in part was due to reaching out to friends in the press and offering to share the details in exchange for being able to preview articles and stories prior to being published along with invitations to their coming out party. Clearly crafted talking points were likely put together by the marketing department and away they went.
Like the direction they are taking or not you have to respect their execution at least with the media.
I do agree that the message is extremely light on details but to notice lack of specificity you had to watch the announcement because the media's analysis since the 21st has been fairly generous considering how poor the showing was on the 21st.
For example Gamespot's leadership found out after the show that MS plans to allow publishers to charge you to unlock used games, this was seen real-time on twitter no less but has that been covered in any detail by the media? Has the media asked any difficult questions or called them out for not having a coherent message? Have you seen much criticism on gaming or tech blogs for MS not clarifying if they intend to charge for MP or hide services behind a paywall or force you to pay for multiple accounts?
Proportionally there are more articles like the link I shared earlier and that isn't due to luck.....
I've seen someone fitting the cardboard cover they used over the device into his entertainment system. It is bigger than the slim Xbox, not as wide as his TiVo.
Thanks guys , maybe I can replace my slim without the other half knowing... hmm
Na I got permission to spend up to $800 on the thing and games. All my other money must go to a wedding
Thanks guys , maybe I can replace my slim without the other half knowing... hmm
Na I got permission to spend up to $800 on the thing and games. All my other money must go to a wedding
Congrats on the wedding, just be aware if austerity is already kicking you might need to step up the gift exchange with your buddies excuse preemptively to avoid arguments later. "Honey I've been buying him Madden for his birthday since 2002, you don't want things to be ackward when we're all together..." will go over much better than "I just want to see what they got at Gamespot...". Your buddy of course will have to reciprocate the game purchases.
ha , don't want to derail the thread much but we are saving for a house + wedding which is 2 years out . After that money shouldn't be to much of an issue since we are already putting away twice what our mortage payment would be saving for the two things together.
Besides I only spend about $300 a year on games these days and my gf buys way more purses and shoes than that
it just lacks half a dozen cu's. everything else is irrelevant at the end of the day.
Not just boxing but something like the Insanity workout where Kinect tracks your form, heart rate etc would be the next big thing for at home exercising.
As I said before, MS strategy will depend on execution. If they think it though, it'll blow up. Provide a poor user experience and it'll tank quickly. The ball is in MS' court to now show the value in the services being touted.
The lack of bad publicity is plausible in light of three things:
1. Microsoft has a large quantity of advertising dollars they are going to spend over the first year after launch. Would you spin things in a nicer way if you knew someone was likely going to cut you a cheque for half a million dollars??
2. Microsoft had good PR with the mainstream media.
3. The hardcore audience just really isn't as big as it imagines itself.
I think Kinect could be pretty huge. About 1/10 Americans suffer from severe physical disabilities (1/5 overall) and I have a friend who is also in this category. Being able to turn the TV on with your voice or gestures and control it that way could be pretty big for anyone in a wheelchair, with arthritis, vision problems or otherwise reduced mobility. A lot of people would love to be able to say 'play the football' rather than figuring out which channel it is on specifically or which remote they have to use to get there.
1. Microsoft has a large quantity of advertising dollars they are going to spend over the first year after launch. Would you spin things in a nicer way if you knew someone was likely going to cut you a cheque for half a million dollars??
2. Microsoft had good PR with the mainstream media.
3. The hardcore audience just really isn't as big as it imagines itself.
I think Kinect could be pretty huge. About 1/10 Americans suffer from severe physical disabilities (1/5 overall) and I have a friend who is also in this category. Being able to turn the TV on with your voice or gestures and control it that way could be pretty big for anyone in a wheelchair, with arthritis, vision problems or otherwise reduced mobility. A lot of people would love to be able to say 'play the football' rather than figuring out which channel it is on specifically or which remote they have to use to get there.
RenegadeRocks
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If it works the way they have shown it ! THe first kinect ad also promised similar gestures which never made it to the X360. I won't believe the smoothness till they show it to journalists. They haven't yet !!
Link please, otherwise its getting difficult to separate the truth at this time wtih everyone bashing the box.
Eh? Loads of journalists have played with the new Kinect. There are videos all over the place.
RenegadeRocks
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Not with the UI, the three in one OS, Have they ? I am talking about that. I want to see live smooth switcihng from game to video to tv and what not. WHen Yusuf demoed switching from TV to game to video, etc, the "game" part was just a video of Forza5 not the realtime game. It dodn't even pause when switching. Understandable that it was all a mockup for the demo.
if there are videos of journalisits swiping thru menus and switching tasks, please link them.
Silent_Buddha
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I think they knew exactly the message they were sending with their first reveal.
I think the only thing they messed up on was actually expecting hardcore gamers in forums on the internet to actually understand what it means when they said that games will be featured at E3 and NOT at the reveal. They said that multiple times. Multiple websites mentioned that.
And yet what happens? Looks like core gamers on the internet can't understand even that simple statement.
Otherwise, the reveal was done exceptionally well at attracting a broad audience to the machine. You only have to look at mainstream media to see how this relates to the overall general public.
The general public couldn't give a rats ass about a gaming console. Show them a home entertainment device with slick integration, voice commands, gestures, voice chat on their TV, multitasking on their TV, AND it can play games and they'll sit up and take notice.
Hence you see much more news about the Xbox One in the mainstream media than you do about the PS4.
Game will be featured at E3 and after. If at that point people still feel they abandoned core gamers, fine. But now? Before they've even shown games? When they explicitly said they were NOT going to be showing games because those would be at E3?
Yeah... About what I expected from the minority of gamers that internet forums represent.
You are interpreting that incorrectly. If they meant it that way it would have been Xbox 1. Instead they deliberate spelled out One to denote unity. As in...
...United we stand as One...
or
...We come here today to speak with One voice...
Hence it is Xbox One and not Xbox 1. In fact official PR is explicitly NOT permitted to write it as Xbox 1 as that would not be intent of the naming.
I can see how someone could get confused about it though.
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SB
They still really messed up on their PR regarding information control. Why are they saying all this stuff before sony? I mean half the "bad" news we hear from ONE will likely also affect PS4 but its all coming as one concentrated dose on the xbox. At this point, microsoft better have an amazing E3 or else they won't be able to gain enough early adopters who are usually comprised of mainly core gamers.
Michellstar
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After watching the reveal you realize why they did scrape the XboxTV, or to be more accurate why it didn´t existed on the first place.
The specialized media got it mixed before the event.
What i think is happening after all is the Xbox mini
We´ll see at E3
The specialized media got it mixed before the event.
What i think is happening after all is the Xbox mini
We´ll see at E3
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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thing is, if somebody thought the wii was a gimmick, thought move was a gimmick thinks Kinect is a gimmick, don't like motions controls and see it nothing more then a gimmick, why is Kinect 2.0 going to change anything.
It's not that it's being glossed over, it's that on the gamer side, not all, but most, simply don't care.
Two things, generalizing of course, that gamers want. Powerful hardware and games.
Microsoft already failed at one of those, imo of course.
I'm sure most people don't read Japanese here so I'll summarize what happened.
http://www.z-z-z.jp/BLOG/log/eid996.html
Famitsu.com, as many people know, a large game news site (magazines, etc.), and basically all Japanese game media were simply not invited at all.
So some of them actually went ahead and flew themselves to Seattle to see if they could actually attend the event. They were rejected right there and were told to view the stream online.
I know they don't really care about the Japanese market after how 360 sold there but this surely isn't good PR.
http://www.z-z-z.jp/BLOG/log/eid996.html
Famitsu.com, as many people know, a large game news site (magazines, etc.), and basically all Japanese game media were simply not invited at all.
So some of them actually went ahead and flew themselves to Seattle to see if they could actually attend the event. They were rejected right there and were told to view the stream online.
I know they don't really care about the Japanese market after how 360 sold there but this surely isn't good PR.
http://www.infowars.com/samsung-tvs-can-be-hacked-to-spy-on-viewers/
After seeing this I think we have every reason to have problems with it.
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