Mefisutoferesu
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Oh!! I thought this was the new game assassin. I've seen the ruby demo more than enough times. Thanks for the effort though.
MGS4 realtime demonstration by Kojima
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mckmas8808 said:
I don't know, I don't really see a big difference between screenshots and motion. I think the thing is you see less of the bad stuff when it's in motion, but it's still there if you look for it. You also don't see stuff like moving shadows or get the full effect of the bloom effect, but I mean that's pretty much implied in the picture (I can see the effect of the bloom still) and would still be the same in all pictures of all games that have that effect. That said, there's nothing here that hasn't been done before, so I don't see why we can't use screenshots to compare..
mckmas8808
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Atsim said:
Are you trying to not listen to others hear? You should know that a moving character on a next-gen system proves many times more of what the end user will play than a screenshot. Have you seen the direct feed video yet? I have and it's WAY better than the screenshot provided trust me.
Mefisutoferesu
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LOL. Now those are the kind of past and present comarisons I wanna hear!
dubyateeeff
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When he moves the light source the shadow in the background doesnt move. So it seems that the environment has normal mapped light? (or whatever it is called - a static, precalculated light map)
For something that looks like a handful of polys plus a texture, that seems like overkill. Did they say anything more about it?one said:
Mefisutoferesu
Regular
Not so much MGS4 news as, well, MGS3, but very very cool. Another game I need to buy for the PS2... I'm starting to hate the PS2 for the sole fact, that it's making me poor.
Disc One - Subsistence: main game (with new camera and facepaint/camouflage outfits) and Demo Theater
Disc Two - Persistence: both MSX games, Snake vs. Monkey (with new missions), Duel Mode, Metal Gear Online (includes Reiko of Rumble Roses), and Secret Theater (with exclusive new videos)
Disc Three - Existence (limited to "First Edition"): three-and-a-half hour MGS3 in-game movie disc that plays from start to finish with "re-editing, cuts of newly recorded material, and re-mastered sound all carried out under the supervision of director Hideo Kojima"
TGS 2005 trailer: http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/movie/tgs2005_mgs3sub_e.asx
Disc One - Subsistence: main game (with new camera and facepaint/camouflage outfits) and Demo Theater
Disc Two - Persistence: both MSX games, Snake vs. Monkey (with new missions), Duel Mode, Metal Gear Online (includes Reiko of Rumble Roses), and Secret Theater (with exclusive new videos)
Disc Three - Existence (limited to "First Edition"): three-and-a-half hour MGS3 in-game movie disc that plays from start to finish with "re-editing, cuts of newly recorded material, and re-mastered sound all carried out under the supervision of director Hideo Kojima"
TGS 2005 trailer: http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/movie/tgs2005_mgs3sub_e.asx
Before they mention the moustache as it has the same amount of polygons as one character model in MGS3, at the beginning of the 1up video, they say something with 60,000 vertices primitives is driven by physics simulation, but what this thing with 60,000 vertices really is is not clear as the video starts in the middle of the explanation. As it's simulated with physics, I think it's the hair of Snake that has 60,000 polygons. Anyway we need more complete version of the Konami MGS show video...Inane_Dork said:
mckmas8808
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Inane_Dork said:
Well with the next-gen systems it's obvious now that it is not overkill. It would be overkill if the game were to be 20fps though. But that will not be a problem with MGS4.
mckmas8808 said:
Ok, look at it this way. High Res Direct Feed is going right? It's a movie, there's constant motion and such and it looks stunning as you say. Now, take a picture (ign.com has high res pictures of the trailer) See the ugly stuff? The bad textures and such? Now think of the kind of game MGS is. Most of the time you're back is against a wall waiting for your chance to move. There isn't any motion, you're going to notice that kind of stuff. That's all I'm saying, it's still there and a screenshot shows it. To me it just pops out. You maybe not. You're lucky, you get to enjoy it, but I'm probably going to notice that when I play the game.
Stillmatic
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The trailers now up at the Konami website, but it's still not high res.
http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/english/mgs4_04.html
http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/english/mgs4_04.html
mckmas8808
Legend
WOW! The direct feed is longer and shows more stuff. I didn't even know that there were air planes in the beginning. And did anybody notice Snake running around in the beginning. He was the one doing half of the killing. And the ending is priceless. Kojima even showed the KZ video.
You gotta love that guy. Even he believes in Guerrilla.
You gotta love that guy. Even he believes in Guerrilla.Hmm, probably a hi-res version will be released on some magazine DVD! Another wait it seemsmckmas8808 said:WOW! The direct feed is longer and shows more stuff. I didn't even know that there were air planes in the beginning. And did anybody notice Snake running around in the beginning. He was the one doing half of the killing. And the ending is priceless. Kojima even showed the KZ video.
Mefisutoferesu
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Isn't FAMItsu going to do so? IIRCAIND they said they were going to have a highlights DVD or something. I remember DVD of something! I know that.
Also, anyone know where I can get a copy of the diret feed trailer? I keep getting insufficient bandwidth errors? I guess because the site's being hammered.
Also, anyone know where I can get a copy of the diret feed trailer? I keep getting insufficient bandwidth errors? I guess because the site's being hammered.
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Mefisutoferesu
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That would require the business to actually see bit torrent as a legitmate form of data transfer and not the hub of piracy. With the RIAA and MPAA leading the way it's not that surprising that they don't and will not.
For those who can't get it off the Konami site
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1743
For those who can't get it off the Konami site
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1743
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