MGS4 realtime demonstration by Kojima

Come to think of it, has anyone seen jvd lately?

 

So what is he going to cut Snake hair physics off when more than 10 people are on the screen? Come on man you gotta think. If it's in there, then it's in there. And yes I still to this day think that the unnamed game will be achieved. No big deal.

 

are you talikng to me ?

1 what are "reputation voting priveleges"
2 what trooling did i do ?
3 WTF what are you talking about ?

you have to explain .

 

I'm not talking about you _phil_, I'm talking about Phil.

 

If it's physics to write home about then somthing needs to be cut somewhere. Next gen is not as powerful as you dream. Also 10 people on the screen is not what I said. It's just a marketing ploy that you're swallowing hook line and sinker. Check that trailer out again. Do you see his clothes get dirty? Why dedicate physics to a stupid mustache when his clothes doesn't even get dirty from rolling on the floor? It's like trying to hide with your tail sticking out. Remember the gimicky physics based glass shattering in MGS2? Was the physics used all the time on all the glass that you shoot on all the levels?

 

Now you are comparing PS2 with PS3? Rofl...

 

Your going to be really surprised with what the X360 and PS3 can do then. A person like you should think a game like Full Auto is impossible. Do you know how much physics is being played into that game? The whole city is connected to something in that game. Just wait fellow you'll see.

Anyways here's what Kojima was saying during that demo conference.

Link http://ps3.ign.com/articles/651/651960p1.html

 

looks like snake's eye scanner is able to provide him some kind of 'life' information ? tense,fear,concentration..?
will have to wait for HD version to gess more about that.

btw, the mgs2 game ,and later mgs3 got big graphics improvements since the first mgs2 trailer...It only can get better.

 

Actually I'm not, you just don't get the point..let's just leave it at that.

FA looks like crap regardless of the underlying physics. Heck even current generation has very good crash physics in the form of the Burnout games. You are comparing COMPLETELY different types of games. MGS physics to a racing games physics that is doable on current gen??? Utterly pointless.

 

The point is, you seem quite content to believe that next gen hardware hasn't improved.

 

Hold up what did you just say? Did you just say Full Auto's physics is doable on current gen? Oh ok now I know what I'm dealing with here. You just expose your side guy. Sorry but that is horribly wrong.

 

Of course it has improved, but the physics isn't going to be an order of magnitude better like some would like to believe. Let's wait and see what kind and level of physics present in MGS4 beyond the gimmicks. People were hyping about the breaking glass physics before MGS2 came out, then when the game came out it was relegated to one scene.

No I didn't but is it 10 times better? Will you notice it if it was 2 x better vs 10 x better. What does FA's physics have anything to do with MGS4 physics?

 

So you are the resident expert on this.

 

XBox1: 1.5 GFlops - PS3: 234GFlops.

so we might get something better than 10 times better physics

 

Better get your Xbox 1 numbers straight.

No I thought you were.

 

You made the claim, you support it with evidence

 

true

 

Physics and simulation were marketed heavily early on Emotion Engine life. Zooming only onto PS2, you get decent to good results with what you paid for then and there. Its just not much game changing when you see across the generation. It is more marketing.

That is too say, we have heard XeCPU and Cell have more than enough flops to simulate a fun next gen gameworld.

 

I made a prediction.

 

hint :multiple light sources
in fact ,the light source he moves seems like a projector ,not the main sun source