Killzone 2 pre-release discussion thread

deepbrown, I thought the Steel Box edition in overseas markets are full retail game ? Are they really review copies ?

 

Look at the last picture in this series:

 

Ah I see. Is the UK Steelbox edition real ? Or is there no collector edition at all, worldwide ?

 

Yeah, but aren't those just the pics of that review copy + "press kit" that sold on ebay a few weeks back for silly money? (Rather than actually being representative of the steel book edition RenegadeRocks has ordered)

 

Its just the same artbook that we'll get as an exclusive deal. The game will be a retail Steelbook Version !

 

From the earlier match-making vs server-based online setup debate, It sounds like KZ2 will allow you to pick arbitrary servers to host your games.

I could be wrong here.

 

No no no and again no. Those pics were selectively picked and I also suspect some touch up work. I have the demo and although it looks godly it doesnt look nowhere as good as the CGI

 

I agree.

Maybe I need my eyes checked, but the demo definitely does not meet much less exceed the CG trailers.

The games lighting and AI is awesome though.

 

Wasnt the 05 "target render" running at 1080/60 frames with ray traced lighting, and insane amounts of AA?
I bet a single gun from that 05 render would &^&!$ KZ2's memory budget.

 

Can we move on from exaggerations please...

 

Those screens are not touch up or selectively pick. They're 100% realtime. I already play the demo and it surpass the E3 demo in many ways. The lighting are better, the textures look sharper/better quality and colors are better too etc...

Can't wait to see how KZ3 will look

 

No and most of us have played the demo

 

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=207863?cid

Are you sure promo copies will work online?

 

I can't believe you're still claiming this after all this tme. The E305 demo is technically far superior to the finished product. You might think it looks better and thats great, but technically it isn't even in the same ballpark.

 

Not to mention uncertainty in patching a non-official release.

It's safer to get the retail version no doubt.

Yap. It should go down better if he says, "I like blah-blah better than the blah-blah in the 2005 trailer".

 

I think that whole discussion started because someone (deepbrown?) mentioned that this game has better AI than (H3 Far cry etc)

that seemed like a "can of worms" statement to begin with.

 

Actually, it began when Vanquish came in this thread for the umpteenth time to tell us how exaggerated (insert topic here) is. He compared the KZ2 AI to H3, Far Cry, Fear, etc, and said it wasn't impressive, rather, we were all "gushing for no reason".

That said, I think the AI is subjective, different people pick and chose what they want to see and notice, and take random AI acts as "flanking" etc.

I'm in the military, rarely does AI impress me because it all just seems like smoke and mirrors. Usually these things happen by chance and aren't that impressive. Halo 3, Uncharted, and KZ2 are the only titles that I have been impressed by, as far as AI is concerned.

 

Yes, I wouldn't call a Helghast yelling "I'm gonna get you", and charge up the second floor smoke and mirror.

It's the second time now. The first time I killed one right at the top of the staircase (This one was quiet). The second time, he made it all the way to Garza but turned and chased after me. I was afraid he'd melee Garza to death but nothing happened there.

 

actually... read it again

 

The Covenant and HGHs fight so differently though.
The Covenant are more zone oriented, protect large spheres and they usually go about the business of killing you within their specific zones. The Brutes and Elites will hunt you down, but you usually have to really agitate them in order for that to happen.
The HGHs seem less zone oriented and much more eager to counterattack and hunt you down, using the environmental factors to their advantage. (i.e. shifting their bodies behind cover,switching from cover to cover, shooting explosive barrels)
In some ways, the behaviour of KZ2's HGHs reminds me a bit of the Elite behaviours in H2, (Mind you the typical Helghast grunt is nowhere near as agile or strong as an Elite, but they can catch you off guard and surprise you from behind.)
but I'd say KZ2's AI is more reminiscent of F.E.A.R. and Half Life.