Gran Turismo Sport [PS4]

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  1. Nesh

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    I see lack of AO as the culprit
     
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    Even though I can be very picky with graphics if I want to, I still fail to see the 'total garbage' you mentioned some posts ago.

    Reminder: total garbage. As in total garbage.
     
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    It does look a little too flat, but geometry is not the biggesr problem, and certainly not lack of micro-pixel sized bevels. More detailed GI would make much more difference, and maybe some subtle detailed textures for rain stains here and there would not hurt either...
     
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    I know and I agree. I'm only saying that that's one thing, the other is stating that it looks like total garbage.
     
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    yeah, total garbage is a complete overstatement.
     
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    The lighting here is <3 ! Can't for some HDR footage from Gamersyde. That would be cake !
     
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    Saying GT4 is 'total garbage' is total garbage.
     
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    So here's a reference for comparison



    Is this slightly less garbage?

    Original
    Image1.jpg

    Tweaked
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    The original almost has too much AO now :grin:
     
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    Sometimes the lighting doesnt look as convincing
     
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    Even against an overcast and blurry video the difference is (obviously) massive.
     
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    I can't wait to play this in 4k.
     
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    If only GT had bevels it would have looked like reality :yep2:
     
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    The middle one is very good, but then its real life. ;) Headlights make a lot of difference, and the materials are clearly more diverse and 'natural'.
     
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    No hands on but my impressions based on recent gameplay videos:
    while the sense of speed is rather good in its current state, gameplay is still too static for my taste just like GT 5 was (never played 6). I have no doubt you could have some fun with it but footage does not excite me. Preview builds apparently do not have any damage system so I don't expect anything substantially more realistic than in the past.

    I see it as a great graphical leap over past iterations but other than that I expected more to be honest- not just content wise but also In terms of gameplay. Having better controls and overall a better feel thanks to a improved controller or wheel isn't enough. It looks too gamey for a 2017 'Driving simulator' and thats my main problem this isn't Codemasters GRID which had a fantastic unique feel but was never promoted as simulation
     
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    I think what ruins the sense of speed it is the camera. The third person camera is far out and way too fixated at the back. The track moves but the car feels very much fix. During first person the camera is relatively a lot more static too.
    Some motion blur around the edges of the screen would have also helped

    You can see this when you compare the three games. The car in PC and FM move a lot more on elevation and turns in 3rd person. There is more rotational freedom.The camera shakes in various angles to elevation and turns in first person too, but it is more subtle in GT. The camera is also closer to the windshield. You are not looking from the drivers eyes. Conveying the sense of G-forces help a lot in conveying speed which PC does better than Forza and GT in 1st person. You can see that the acceleration and speed pulls the camera backwards as it would have happened in rea life. The car in GT is affected by elevation and turns but since the camera is a lot more fixated it destroys the feel.of speed




    Grid is completely unrealistic btw but the shaky camera and motion blur help
     
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    A beta update added in an option to bring the third person camera closer and have more free movement instead of being locked to the car.

     
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    Ok thats a lot better.
     
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    I don't think I could tell any more especially from the that gif:), I guess that van driving slowly down the highway gives it away.
     
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