Sdw said:
Good point. I did get the impression from many that FFVII was so good that it would still be a superb game, which I why I decided to give it a try, but that might just be peoples judgement being clouded by nostalgia.
Although I consider myself a hardcore Final Fantasy geek, I have to agree that FFVII didn't stand the test of time very well. Sure, the things I liked about it still remain: the beautiful, unique setting and atmosphere (sure beats the generic medieval fantasy setting used by nearly EVERY ----ING WESTERN RPG EVER), the music that really sets the tone and directs your emotions (rather than just being unobtrusive background noise), the attention to detail in the pre-rendered backgrounds that is utterly lacking in today's real-time 3d worlds due to technical reasons or just laziness, etc.
What you mentioned before about characters' behavior being erratic and strange is spot on. This is exactly what I noticed when I fired up FFVII about a year ago. Every time you talk to someone it seems like they say something totally non-sequitur and irrelevant. The translation is atrocious. Also, I almost get the feeling that the story was something they made up as they went along. Some new law of physics or whatever just comes out of nowhere whenever it's convenient. It's sort of like in Ghostbusters when Egon tells them to cross the streams and they all look at him like "where did that come from?"
Which FF game (or other JRPG) would you recommend starting with then? Is FF8/9 better, or is it only the latest PS2 games that you would say are up to modern standards?
Or should I try an entirely different series as a introduction to JRPG?
You should check out the "JRPG best of list" on this board. To answer your question, though, it depends on what you want to get out of the game. For me, JRPGs are about complex storylines, immersive environments loaded with detail and personality, a bit of uniqueness and quirkiness that you don't find in most western games, music that is as much a part of the games as the visuals (if not moreso), characters that are interesting enough that you enjoy watching them interact with each other, etc.
My favorite JRPG by far is Xenogears for PS1. There's no other game like it. The story is just epic. You learn bits and pieces of the history of Xenogears' universe and they all start to fit together. You really feel like you are part of something enormous. You make connections by yourself instead of having some idiotic 17-year-old blue-haired "up-with-people" douchebag spoon feed everything you. It's not a black-and-white, good-versus-evil thing because the antagonists have interesting, complex motivations. You start to see the layers of complexity the more you get into it. It also raises some pretty interesting philosophical questions such as: Can we ever live peacefully with each other? What does it mean to be human? What is our true potential? What is our relationship with God? Who/what are our masters? Also, if you know anything about Nietzsche's philosophies, you will appreciate that many characters are total embodiments of his ideas. And come on, it has giant robots, kung fu, pirates, sex, and space ships, among other things
The one disclaimer I have about Xenogears, and it bothers me because I HATE when games do this, is that the game starts out a bit slowly. It takes about 30-45 minutes to get into it. I promise it's worth it though!