Electric Vehicle Thread!

[cheapchips]

Here's the Reuter's article.

Exclusive: Toyota scrambles for EV reboot with eye on Tesla

Toyota is considering a reboot of its electric-car strategy to better compete in a booming market it has been slow to enter, and has halted some work on existing EV projects, four people with knowledge of the still-developing plans said.

www.reuters.com

Poor Toyota, getting caught behind the curve on EVs. If only they'd put some efforts onto developing EVs instead of being the third biggest funder of actions blocking climate legislation (after two oil companies). Barstewards.

 

[orangpelupa]

New Jersey Legislators Want to Ban In-Car Subscriptions for Pre-Installed Hardware - ExtremeTech

If made into law, the bill would prohibit dealers and vehicle manufacturers in New Jersey from even offering customers subscription services for hardware like heated seats.

www.extremetech.com

Except if the service incur "ongoing expense" for the manufacturer.

So I guess tesla FSD, hyundai remote unlock, steering wheel heating, and many more still can be subscription. As manufacturers can easily tie them to "ongoing expense"

Yeah the hardware for fsd/remote unlock/steering wheel heating are already there. But it need to do secure handshakes with the server, so it have ongoing expense!

 

[Davros]

Does it ? my friends seats and steering wheel heat up fine without contacting any kind of server

 

[orangpelupa]

Does it ? my friends seats and steering wheel heat up fine without contacting any kind of server

They can easily tie them to license checks. Not saying they currently did. But they can update it to need licenses check to be in line with the law.

Instead of making the features enabled by default if the hw is present.

Thus followed the law but not the spirit of the law

 

[Deleted member 2197]

Mercedes-Benz to introduce acceleration subscription fee

Owners of some Mercedes electric cars in the US can soon pay a $1,200 annual fee to speed up faster.

www.bbc.com

 

[wco81]

EVs predicted to comprise 35% of new car sales in China next year.

EVs will account for 35 per cent of car sales in China next year as growing range of electric models lures motorists, says Fitch Ratings — South China Morning Post

New-energy vehicle (NEV) sales will maintain their strong growth in China next year as more motorists ditch their petrol cars in favour of an expanding range of electric options, Fitch Ratings predicts. Electric cars will account for over 35 per cent of…

apple.news

 

[AzBat]

Full Self Driving Beta ships to all who have purchased the option in North America...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1595682322707267584

 

[orangpelupa]

Full Self Driving Beta ships to all who have purchased the option in North America...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1595682322707267584

hide your kids! dont let them on the roads!

 

[AzBat]

hide your kids! dont let them on the roads!

Thought of this LOL

Spoiler

Homeboy! LOL

 

[wco81]

Hasn’t FSD been in beta for years?

Musk long ago promised it would be done by now.

 

[Davros]

BEHOLD : The Car of the Future

Absolutely amazing what technology can do
It haz Sens0rz

 

[wco81]

Tesla touted its semi doing 500 miles on a single charge.

But a closer look suggests shenanigans -- what a shocker -- from Tesla.

Musk and Priestly showed a timelapse video of the Semi doing a 500-mile run from Fremont to San Diego, with Musk saying the entire, uncut video will eventually hit YouTube. We really want to watch it. A graph displayed at the presentation said the Semi departed with a 97% charge and arrived with 4% of charge remaining. Problem is, the driver’s wearing a baseball cap that occasionally obscures the left-side screen that contains the speedo, which seems … highly coincidental. If the camera were placed lower, like it is in a later section of video where the driver's doing a constant 55 mph, or if it were placed anywhere on the left side of the cab, or if the driver weren’t wearing a hat, we’d see the speedo the entire time.

The numbers we can see show what looks like some tenderfoot driving. Keeping in mind that the speed limit for Class 8 trucks is 55 mph in California, the Semi did 55 or below for the opening stint; at one point doing 29 mph on what looks like open highway. The driver follows another rig on I-5 at about 60 to 65 mph for a spell, up to about the one-third mark in the trip. Then he locks into 55 or 57 mph for the long stint through central California, dropping as low as 44 mph and 39 mph for a surprising length of time.

For the final 100-mile stretch from Riverside to San Diego, after the driver takes his mandatory break, he doesn’t exceed 51 mph in the video, dropping as low as 47 mph on open highway.

We gotta watch the whole uncut thing, but it seems like if you see the Semi on the interstate, you should look for it in the slow lane.

https://autos.yahoo.com/let-talk-te...SzvktG-DNLVnJcId8XwBjuLce-DuCaf1e86DaGA4n4kR_

 

[BRiT]

I didn't think California Highways would allow for over 5 MPH unless it was in the wee hours.

 

[Albuquerque]

Hasn’t FSD been in beta for years?

Musk long ago promised it would be done by now.

Remember the unbreakable windows in the CyberTruck?

Yeah, so he makes a lot of really dumb statements. There was no reason to expect getting an autonomous AI driver to actually properly function in a world where humans are driving was going to work in any "near" timeline.

 

[Davros]

Alby dont you know that by 2020 your Tesla will work as an autonomous taxi when your not using it earning you up to 20k a year.

 

[Albuquerque]

Alby dont you know that by 2020 your Tesla will work as an autonomous taxi when your not using it earning you up to 20k a year.

Actually, did you see any of the excerpts from that Tesla Semi event? At some point there was a picture (I'll see if I can find it and edit->copypasta it into my post here later) where they showed the lineup of upcoming to-be-announced vehicles, and a discrete Robotaxi entity had its own position in the lineup. But what, what about my own car being a Robotaxi?!? Is it a transformer now, too?

By the way, my wife has enjoyed her Model Y very much since November 18th when we picked it up. And despite the usual internet stores about how this could never happen, all the panels were lined up, all the panel gaps were tight and evenly spaced, the paint was in perfect condition, none of the lenses had moisture in them, the glass was all centered in the seals, the interior panels also lined up, all the features were present and worked on the first try, there are no rattles or buzzes or bonks or clunks, the road noise is remarkably better than anything we've ever owned (which honestly isn't a high bar), and it's just been a solid mode of transportation for the last three weeks and 400 miles.

This is last week when I picked it up from getting fully detailed, PPF applied to the front half including the lights and camera bezels, ceramic coating for the rest of the exterior, a 70% nano-ceramic (infrared heat blocking) window tint on every piece of glass including the roof, and then a different form of ceramic coating for every white-colored interior surface. Also it picked up the new super-light 18" forged wheels wrapped in Michelin Pilot AS4 tires, ripping off the 21" Uberturbines and the tiny and stretched rubberband Pirelli P-Zeros. Rides so much better now, also accelerates notably faster. And the ties are remarkably less expensive when it eventually comes time to replace them.

 

[Jawed]

A benefit of an electric car is easily being able to run the heating for half an hour before going for a drive. It usually only mildly snows here in London, but that burst of heating clears the snow off the windows quite nicely Just open the app and click "start conditioning".

 

[Sxotty]

Ice cars do that too but they stink everything up while doing it. 30m is a really long time. That is how long it takes? When plugged in or not? iCE takes about 7m to heat up. I actually assumed electric would be faster since no engine and coolant have to heat up.

 

[Jawed]

Ice cars do that too but they stink everything up while doing it. 30m is a really long time. That is how long it takes? When plugged in or not? iCE takes about 7m to heat up. I actually assumed electric would be faster since no engine and coolant have to heat up.

My car runs for as long as 30 minutes before it will shut off the conditioning. Doesn't need to be plugged in.

Warm air starts in about 5 seconds after activating, from cold... Obviously the cabin takes time to warm through, -2C to 21C doesn't happen instantaneously...

 

[wco81]

But some early electric cars don't have heat pumps so running the heating will draw down battery.

I guess heat pump is more efficient and it's an option on some EVs.