Black XB360 120 Gig HDD + HDMI = $479
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Fu3lFr3nzy
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Lots of rumors about the Black Box recently, but WOW!, if its finally confirmed for sale... -$$$ *bank account*
Lots of rumors about the Black Box recently, but WOW!, if its finally confirmed for sale... -$$$ *bank account*
Gradthrawn
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"I'd buy that for a dollar."
But it damn well better have built-in WiFi and an HD-DVD drive for me to get a new one.
But it damn well better have built-in WiFi and an HD-DVD drive for me to get a new one.
Point Of Sale.
Maybe it's April 1 and not May 1?
If this is true I have mixed feelings. I think my 360 should be black and have HDMI, but now I have the "old" SKU that will be a hard sell. I hope they have a trade-in program
I don't care much about the HD space, I don't DL movies so 20GB holds my save games and demos fine.
If the 360 evolves into the PS3 anymore, it will be hard to have a good vs thread. Both will be black, HDMI, 1080P, be $500, etc. I guess we will always have HD-DVD vs BD.
If this is true I have mixed feelings. I think my 360 should be black and have HDMI, but now I have the "old" SKU that will be a hard sell. I hope they have a trade-in program
I don't care much about the HD space, I don't DL movies so 20GB holds my save games and demos fine.
If the 360 evolves into the PS3 anymore, it will be hard to have a good vs thread. Both will be black, HDMI, 1080P, be $500, etc. I guess we will always have HD-DVD vs BD.
VS threads are not allowed here actually
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if I had gone for the 1080p TV then I guess I'd be pissed that I don't have HDMI (but I EXPECT a dongle add on for the white one) but as it stands, I'm happy at 720p from 10' away at 50" for HD DVD over component.
Games I could have had in 1080p over component.
I even use component in with my HD cable box as it gives me a better picture (contrast/color) than either of my HDMI connections.
FWIW, I just called my Game Crazy (PHX AZ) and the Mngr says they have no official info whatsoever (no sku, no corporate memo, just rumors from people like me calling
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Not unless it is at 65nm also... no point in doing an external refresh...
Hmmm, a 3rd SKU perhaps? It may confuse consumers more. The price is a bit too high, should be 429 tops. Make this the new premium, drop the current premium or replace the core with current premium.
This seems closest to what I would expect...
We could see a phasing out of the core@$299us. We would see the now premium drop to the $299us price point, and said 120gb box would find itself sitting at $399us.
Nothing else really makes much sense. Add with this the reduction to 65nm and MS will still be making $$ at each price point, while matching Sony specs and arguablly surpassing in a few. This would surely put the heat on.
Hmmm, a 3rd SKU perhaps? It may confuse consumers more. The price is a bit too high, should be 429 tops. Make this the new premium, drop the current premium or replace the core with current premium.
Core is in it for the long haul. I'd suspect the black color will just be an added color option while hdmi may be added as standard across the board for copy protection complience with ITV/hd-dvd. 120gb would be nice but may be a bit much to replace the standard 20gb and I doubt they (MS or retailers) want 3 sku's unless the third is a true premium sku with built-in HD-DVD and high-quality DVD upscaling/playback as well. If that is the case they could get away with price/feature parity at the top with ps3 and ~price parity with Wii with core.
Personally though I think 3 sku's is a bit much and I'd rather they run with 2 (core, core+HDDVD+120gb HDD) or 1 (core) and leave the periphs as addon's if desired with more reasonable prices to match.
1 sku would sell a clear message to the consumer and as long as they aren't price gouging on periphs I think it would be the way to go.
Yeah... but MS did say they will keep the core around for emerging markets. From a business perspective they need a point of entry at the cheapest possible price point so they may just keep the core as-is (meaning no hdd, headset, etc). Who knows though, they could go the route you listed too! MS wants to make money on h/w this gen.
I have no idea what they will do.
I personally think this deal isn't bad at all. 120 gig harddrive for $479? It makes the 20gig PS3 look bad for those not interested in hi-def formats. I'm not sure exactly how much a 120gig laptop SATA costs (I believe the Xbox360 uses the same drive inside as a PS3), but I trust it isn't cheap.
I personally wonder what this kind of thing will do to the market though. Will MS keep introducing more SKUs and call it giving the consumer more options ? How will consumers react ? Should be interesting since we have never seen this kind of thing happen before in the home console market.
No reason to be pissed there as movies are only 24fps anyway, which means they fit in a 1080i signal just as well as they do in 1080p one.
Yeah, companies put stuff in their system just becuase consumers ask about it and they want their clerks to have a response. This news confirms nothing.FWIW, I just called my Game Crazy (PHX AZ) and the Mngr says they have no official info whatsoever (no sku, no corporate memo, just rumors from people like me calling
scooby_dooby
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Me neither. $479?? Should make it $399, drop the Premium to $300 and $250 respectively, drop the HDD to $50, and they could probably start outselling PS3 again.
MS seems content to wait though, i don't think it's a great strategy.
what do u mean?
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