Not entirely true ... Some Enhanced games offer Performance mode at 1080p 60Hz and all the X360 BC games are significantly smoother too. At the very least the same old games load substantially faster.
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Not entirely true ... Some Enhanced games offer Performance mode at 1080p 60Hz and all the X360 BC games are significantly smoother too. At the very least the same old games load substantially faster.
Yeah there's other advantages for 1080p owners - it's nice to have the choice however I would say paying the X price with a 1080p TV really seems to be a poor value proposition as it's quite a big price jump.
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Yeah, supersampling and stuff like that. None of which, to my mind, justify the cost of a whole new machine.
Well faster loading, better frame-rates and quieter machine (for me) as well as supersampling and then there's the PSVR advantages with some games seeing quite large differences...I also think the operation is smoother/quicker. I think it 'cost' me ~£100 to upgrade. TBH I'm not that fuessed about 4K - I would have loved a 1080p HDR TV though.
I can totally understand why people might not be fussed about uograding thoughp
significantly higher settings as well, likely much higher AF.
improved performance for all games BC, enhanced, not enhanced.
Considering the base performance level of XBO, it's quite an upgrade.
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Oh, it's huge. The impact is predominantly resolution though. It's not new generation levels of high, but 4x pixel count difference (and coincidentally, 4x power difference).
I know that there is the odd game that has a higher frame rate, only it's the exception rather than the rule. Let's be honest here, the intent of these consoles is resolution and assuming similar sales will only result in exactly that. That's their whole purpose.
I don't anticipate significant longterm sales differences with either of these machines. Quote me on it if I'm wrong, I'll eat my metaphorical hat.
I guess it all depends on how long they intend these mid generation refreshes to last.
For me, it's a big jump. And for a market moving to 4K, ti's the right thing to have right now. The eventual release of a PS5/XB2 is warranted, but it seems like it's too early when the target resolution of 4K is still not widely adopted.
These stop gap consoles will need to provide that transition period for next gen, at least that's how i feel. I think we'll continue to see increased sales as time goes on and the market continues to adopt more 4k Sets.
super sampling provides a good reason to purchase, if you're waiting for 4K prices to drop. TV sets drop significantly more than consoles do per year.
I'm not convinced, diminishing returns are a real thing - I've seen plenty of reports from folk with 4K TVs who say they can't see the difference. I totally see there are differences and some are big, but if you have to stop playing to see it does it really matter?
These consoles are for a small group of gamers and until sales of the base units stops I can't see a big change in the sales ratio for a couple years at least and by then we will be talking PS5/XboxNext.
Essentially the entry price just doesn't make it woorth the extra without exclusives...in fact, people always say that exclusives are not important and that price/performance/other factors are bigger deciding factors - with the X launch we can see that being put to the test as it's significantly more powerful than the base unit - almost next gen levels of improvements and the price is a next gen price - but no exclusives.
It's maybe a lot more true with PS4 where at least you're typically getting a decent resolution.
On base XBO basically running a lot of titles at near 720P the blurriness is a genuine problem on a 1080P tv.
Well Amazon isn't necessarily that indicative (I think Zhuge said it's 15% of the market?). PS4 does seem to have the better BF deals to my eye. The base deal (across various retailers) seems to be $199 PS4 while the base XBOX deal seems to be maybe 189 with a $25 gift card. But it's 1TB PS4 vs 500GB Xbox One, so it isn't apples to apples. And generally Xbox one needs to be priced lower apples to apples since it's less powerful. Also Sony announced official 199 price for the whole thanksgiving week and I'm not sure if Xbox has officially matched that.
The fact XX outselling regular X One by your Amazon list speaks volumes.
If the buying habits aren't different, it should be representative. How different a population does Amazon attract versus GameStop and BestBuy? If we had that data, we ought to be able to better utilise Amazon.
From Resetera it seems hardware sales are pretty accurate but not software sales... If using sales for the month or for 2017, hourly sales are not accurate at all...
Two days ago the PS4 Slim was behing the Xbox One X on Amazon for novembre 2017 it it not the case anymore.
EDIT: https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017-11/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar#1
EDIT2: It is not indicative of the sales but the ranking is nearly the same
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Now the PS4 Slim is the first hardware for the month at 9th in two days on Amazon and the PS4 Slim is sold out on Best Buy
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017-11/videogames/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017-11/videogames/
If you guys recall our earlier discussion about Xbox One X base model (non scorpio) not showing up on Amazon best sellers. It is now exactly 1 spot behind One X Scorpio Edition ( as of my post writing for Amazon this month)
so i'm going to assume they eventually sold out of Scorpios and now finally moving base units.
That's a pretty good jump for the base unit.
And PUBG showing up 32 is a good sign. At least it has some what of a draw; I get the hesitation though, but if it provides a good experience then I can see the sales increasing rapidly here. Is the online version even available?
https://www.amazon.com/Playerunknow...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FHWDPWEAE1QPA9AJ79BZ
I'm referring to the xbox one version @ #32. I don't think they sell a boxed copy of it for PC
if you want to compare the two mid generation refreshes, it's probably easier/better to do just go with the year ranking. For 2016 4Pro finished 46.
I'd have to wait over a year for that tho
Be interesting to see how the X sales fair over the next few months - see if they hold up at all
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WARNING: Everyone should note that these aren't directly comparable since there are no actual sales numbers attached. This is purely out of curiosity of a completely useless number for comparisons.
XBO-X so far.
August - 3rd.
September - 21st.
October - 62nd.
November (~days 1-21) - 20th.
Just to reiterate, these numbers are not comparable in any way outside of curiosity about useless comparisons.
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