All purpose Sales and Sales Rumors and Anecdotes [2017 Edition]

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Great numbers, GG deserves it. By far their best game, and arguably best PS4 title to date.
 
All of those sales have to be at basically full price. That's like $150,000,000 USD. How does that compare to a typical budget?
 
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ihs-...s4-claims-51-share-over-xbox-one-s-26/0180196

IHS estimation of worlwide console sales

The worldwide console market shrunk by 2.5 per cent in 2016, contracting to a consumer spend figure of $34.7bn. That's across hardware, content and services. This was a result of both a lower volume of console hardware sales and falling hardware prices, which fell to $10.5bn in 2016, a fall of 18 per cent year-on-year.
However, the good news is that IHS expects 2017 to be a rebound year for the worldwide games industry, thanks to the launch of the Nintendo Switch and the ongoing growth in the digital console business.

IHS also states that Sony's overall dominance of the gaming landscape is set to continue in 2017. In 2016, Sony had a 57 per cent share of the console market, contributing $19.7bn of spending on console hardware, games content and services.

Of that figure, $17.8bn came entirely from the PS4, giving the console a 51 per cent share of the total console market. The PS4 was also responsible for almost double the sales value of hardware, content and services compared to the Xbox One, and ended the year with an install base of 53m*, compared to Xbox One's 27.6m.

*53,4 number coming from Sony
 
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http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ihs-...s4-claims-51-share-over-xbox-one-s-26/0180196

IHS estimatiom of worlwide console sales



*53,4 number coming from Sony

Sounds about right with Sony having a roughly 2:1 lead over XBO in terms of install base. Both Sony and Microsoft are doing well this generation. While I'm sure Microsoft would like to be closer to Sony in terms of market penetration, they've got a solid install base.

The ratio is likely higher WRT revenue share, however, as Sony has a higher ASP due to the slightly higher ASP of PS4 and much higher ASP of PS4-P.

Regards,
SB
 
Switch isn't sold out anywhere around here. How is the situation in the US?

Well, I've been trying to get one since launch at MSRP. Haven't had any luck. And I've been lookin at all local stores (Walmart, Target, GameStop, Best Buy etc.) as well as Amazon, Newegg, and other online retailers.

Nope, no luck. I can get them for scalpers prices (lowest I've seen on Amazon when I've looked was 369 USD). I don't check every minute of every day, so I'm sure I'm missing out on the small replenishment windows that pop up from time to time.

Regards,
SB
 
That's a pretty shallow study with very little relevance to anything. I point to the list of coolest games - no. 1 == Legend of Zelda. Clearly it's a fleeting snapshot of current branding.
 
Switch isn't sold out anywhere around here. How is the situation in the US?

I saw a few on the shelf at my local supermarket. Stock seems to be pretty sparse in the US in general, especially at your more traditional gaming stores like Gamestop and Best Buy, but I think supply will meet demand here real soon. Its the middle of the year, and a new $300 gaming system is out of the question for a lot of consumers. They will kill it again come Christmas, and get nice short boost here and there from games like MK8 and Splatoon 2. Expecting Switch to sell a million units a month is pretty much out of the question in my opinion.
 
http://cogconnected.com/2017/04/japan-sales-charts-nintendo-switch/

Seems the Switch continues to do well in Japan. Also seems to continue the trend in Japan of Zelda sales only being half of Switch sales (Mar 31. - Switch 78k, Zelda 39k). That bodes well at least in Japan of there being interest in Switch beyond just Zelda.

Take the following with a huge grain of sale as it's from VGChartz, but it looks like the Switch is more popular in the US and Japan than Europe. Not surprising as the 3DS also tends to be more popular in US and Japan than Europe. What is interesting, however, is that Switch is selling more in the US than Japan which is the opposite of the 3DS. But that could just be supply constraints and unit allocation restrictions.

However, I wonder if this might explain why some users from Europe have mentioned Switch being easier to find there than in the US.

Also, if VGChartz is correct (again healthy skepticism is warranted) the Nintendo Switch is likely to take the number one spot for console hardware in NPD for April.

Regards,
SB
 
http://cogconnected.com/2017/04/japan-sales-charts-nintendo-switch/

Seems the Switch continues to do well in Japan. Also seems to continue the trend in Japan of Zelda sales only being half of Switch sales (Mar 31. - Switch 78k, Zelda 39k). That bodes well at least in Japan of there being interest in Switch beyond just Zelda.

Take the following with a huge grain of sale as it's from VGChartz, but it looks like the Switch is more popular in the US and Japan than Europe. Not surprising as the 3DS also tends to be more popular in US and Japan than Europe. What is interesting, however, is that Switch is selling more in the US than Japan which is the opposite of the 3DS. But that could just be supply constraints and unit allocation restrictions.

However, I wonder if this might explain why some users from Europe have mentioned Switch being easier to find there than in the US.

Also, if VGChartz is correct (again healthy skepticism is warranted) the Nintendo Switch is likely to take the number one spot for console hardware in NPD for April.

Regards,
SB


I think that is most certainly the case. I expect Switch to do really well in Japan, maybe even better than 3DS seeing as how its unlikely for Sony to deliver a successor to the Vita any time soon. Nintendo should clean house in Japan. In the US I suspect similar to 3DS performance, but it is early optimism on my part.
 
http://cogconnected.com/2017/04/japan-sales-charts-nintendo-switch/

Seems the Switch continues to do well in Japan. Also seems to continue the trend in Japan of Zelda sales only being half of Switch sales (Mar 31. - Switch 78k, Zelda 39k). That bodes well at least in Japan of there being interest in Switch beyond just Zelda.

Take the following with a huge grain of sale as it's from VGChartz, but it looks like the Switch is more popular in the US and Japan than Europe. Not surprising as the 3DS also tends to be more popular in US and Japan than Europe. What is interesting, however, is that Switch is selling more in the US than Japan which is the opposite of the 3DS. But that could just be supply constraints and unit allocation restrictions.

However, I wonder if this might explain why some users from Europe have mentioned Switch being easier to find there than in the US.

Also, if VGChartz is correct (again healthy skepticism is warranted) the Nintendo Switch is likely to take the number one spot for console hardware in NPD for April.

Regards,
SB
Yep. Here in my area the switch is quite easy to find in local shops (and from the start). Very different than the Wii back then.

About the US records, I think that because of the Wii U failure, many of Nintendo fans were waiting for the Switch (and for a new and finally ambitious new open world Zelda, the last one being Ocarina of Time).

We'll have a better picture after the holidays but it won't do the Wii numbers IMO.
 
http://www.m-create.com/english/latest_research/e_ranking.html

Another link for future reference as that one will get updated with new numbers sometime this coming week.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/04/nintendo_switch_sales_remain_strong_in_japan

Hmmm, looks like with no new PS4 releases, PS4 sales dropped a bit in Japan. PS4-P saw a larger % drop than PS4. So looks like demand may have stabilized for PS4-P in Japan. It's basically been bouncing within a 5-6.5k range for the past couple months. So roughly Nintendo 2DS level of sales in Japan (they trade sales rankings in some weeks).

Then again no new major Switch releases either and we see Switch sales increased showing that it still maintains interest. Despite the relatively few titles available for the platform, it continues to lead in hardware sales in Japan by a rather large margin.

1-2 Switch is doing surprisingly well.

I find the Japan numbers of interest just because it's the one territory where we can see continued and consistent release of sales numbers to the public.

However, while interesting, it has little relevance to the rest of the world. While it's quite likely that Switch will eventually surpass PS4 sales in Japan, I find it highly unlikely it'll do so outside of Japan. Assuming, of course, it gets decent support from Japanese developers. And I'm fairly certain that will happen.

Basically every Japanese developer that was supporting 3DS appears to be moving to support the Switch as soon as possible. As well Japanese developers that ignored the 3DS and Wii-U have been working to get their previously released PS4 titles up and running on the Switch, showing increased interest from Japanese developers for the platform. For example, the last and only Disgaea game ever released on a Nintendo platform prior to the Switch was Disgaea DS (a port of Disgaea 2: Hour of Darkness) back in 2006. There's been more Windows releases of Disgaea games than Nintendo platform releases. :p

Regards,
SB
 
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017...lot-bigger-and-less-physical-than-we-thought/

Interesting look at the state of the US market for games, and how NPD completely missed the boat on how much digital sales account for all game spending in the US.

The numbers have been restated to account for better visibility on mobile and digital full games and DLC spending. The acquisition of EEDAR, data informed from DLP [a "digital panel" of data directly from publishers], and re-sizing PC DLC spending is what led to the restatements.

They've also gone back to revise numbers for previous years.

Some things to note. This still isn't complete as there are still publishers that do no release digital sales information to NPD. NPD will have to make estimates for those extrapolated from the ratios from other publishers who do provide data. But it should be fairly close now. Activision-Blizzard complicates things however, as most of Blizzard's sales are digital and they now bring in more revenue than Activision does.

Only 26% of games in the US are purchased in a physical format now compared to 69% in 2010. Important note - this still doesn't give us insight into digital versus physical on console as this is all game spending in the US. However, considering that outside of console gaming, physical games sales are insignificant, we can conclude that the erosion of physical sales in the past few years is directly related to more and more consumers moving to digital versus physical on consoles combined with a resurgence in PC gaming.

Regards,
SB
 
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