Psvr 2 is an absolute failure, they should have canceled it. If you aren't going to support it in any way, why even try?
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Ah, my tongue grew hair pointing this a shitload of times when comparing PCs to consoles.
Inuhanyou
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What I would say is that PlayStations situation is unfortunate because of how technically avoidable it is. We are years into the gen with a slow slate of hw pushing games and no price cuts. Had that been possible, the hw would be doing much better not that it isn't now of course
Anytime that there are temporary price cuts (like in November of 2023) consoles fly out of the shelves. It's not like games don't help, but it's more like 80% a price problem and 20% a games problem.
As sad as that is, they should probably make a console like the last PS3. That console was a piece sh*t, it was so cheap in materials, construction, thermals and noise. But a PS5 like that could probably be cost cut to 400$/€ and maintain that price.
Meanwhile Xbox hasn't cost reduced they're console even once. What are they doing?
Inuhanyou
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You mean cut it down to the bone? I could see that being a viable strategy actually. If they could even get it down to ps4s launch price it would be a real boon and push them notably beyond PS4.
I think Xbox just over engineered their machine because they believed the series S would be their cheap option which...to be fair does sell but it's not making up the sales in any meaningful way. I have a series S for a handful of Xbox exclusives and as a backwards compatible machine but that's about it
Make it a rectangle box with some blue leds, reduce the quality of the materials and the construction, put in the cheapest fan possible. A true potato console, like the PS4
At least that's what I would do.
Inuhanyou
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As long as it's smallerMake it a rectangle box with some blue leds, reduce the quality of the materials and the construction, put in the cheapest fan possible. A true potato console, like the PS4
At least that's what I would do.
June 17, 2024
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Starfield has gained 2 million more players in the past 6 months - KitGuru
Starfield has had an interesting trajectory. Following an extensive and lengthy marketing strategy,
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If everyone just binged Starfield using 1 paid month of Gamepass (14 million @ $17), Starfield would have generated the same revenue as 3.4M units sold at retail. If everyone played for 2 months, 6.8m units, so on and so forth. It would take 4.11 months of paid Gamepass to equal the revenue from 1 full price sale, though according to SteamDB it's been on sale as cheap as $46.89, which would only take 2.75 months of Gamepass to reach.
"Sales" can remain relatively low as long as subscriptions (quantified by player engagement) remain high and grow. Microsoft doesn't care how it gets your money as long as it gets your money. Starfield had a rumored budget of $200M+, right? 14M players at $17 each would be $238M, so I suspect they are at or near the break even mark bare minimum.
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LOL. The article is garbage. Only gaming journalists could spin the 14 million players at 40 hour per as a negative.
July 13, 2024
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Terraria is now the 8th best-selling game of all time – surpassing Super Mario Bros - KitGuru
Terraria is a quiet titan. Ever since it was first released back in 2011 the game has not only conti
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Is that how much bethesda get for each download of starfield on gamepass ?
Starfield is much more popular than you can tell from the hype so far. And the best proof of this is Bethesda's official website, where you can view the data of creations and mods. Just a few examples to illustrate:
- More than 1400 mods have been uploaded in a month and a half.
-The most popular mod has been downloaded by 12 million players, so far!
- There are many mods that are played by millions.
-The revenue of the official paid mods (6 pcs) is about 70 million dollars with about 8 million downloads.
-The verified creators generated about 1-2 million dollars in income with a mod.
- On average, 4-5x as many downloads on Xbox Series consoles as on PC!
The game has been extremely popular since Creations was released.
- More than 1400 mods have been uploaded in a month and a half.
-The most popular mod has been downloaded by 12 million players, so far!
- There are many mods that are played by millions.
-The revenue of the official paid mods (6 pcs) is about 70 million dollars with about 8 million downloads.
-The verified creators generated about 1-2 million dollars in income with a mod.
- On average, 4-5x as many downloads on Xbox Series consoles as on PC!
The game has been extremely popular since Creations was released.
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PSVR was always a long term shot from the old exec team. AFAIK they weren't making money neither losing money on it. From 2019 onwards the bosses weren't interested into that kind of risky venture and stopped all investment (even small as it was), hence completely killing the whole thing.
I remember when these threads were alive with updates and discussion. This gen, and the console landscape, is really different in so many ways.
PlayStation 5 totals 61m units sold as hardware sales continue to fall
Sony has now sold over 61m PlayStation 5 consoles, but hardware unit sales have fallen by 32 percent year-on-year. The …
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Needs a price drop. To $250.
PS4 at this point was getting sold at 199$ + spiderman. I don't know what Sony is thinking, even 350$ for the digital would probably be enough. Meanwhile outside of the us the console is still 50€ more than at launchPlayStation 5 totals 61m units sold as hardware sales continue to fall
Sony has now sold over 61m PlayStation 5 consoles, but hardware unit sales have fallen by 32 percent year-on-year. The …
Needs a price drop. To $250.
They are probably thinking that that the BOM hasn't come down on PS5, and may have even gone up.PS4 at this point was getting sold at 199$ + spiderman. I don't know what Sony is thinking, even 350$ for the digital would probably be enough. Meanwhile outside of the us the console is still 50€ more than at launch
I know people give Microsoft a lot of grief because of the Series S, but they called this 4 years ago. The cost of manufacturing isn't going down like it used to. They knew that to hit the $299 price tag they could never do it with the same hardware. That doesn't necessarily mean that Series S was the best thing for the generation, or for Xbox, but it does mean that without Series S, we are likely never to see a $300 console this gen.
How is it that a console launched 4 years ago, with a design and tech even older, can’t get cost-reduced by now?
Sony is reporting soon or has reported. Their profitability picture should be interesting.
Could it be that the overwhelming demand in the first couple of years has led them to think that they don’t need to cut prices as they have with previous console generations?
I know that costs are high now, but I find it short sighted for both platform holders to not subside those consoles. Especially for Sony, every user is very profitable between microtransactions, accessories and games, so selling more would lead to better financials. Are they scared to report losses in hardware to investors?
Ps: and for Microsoft, it would boost gamepass numbers, if users were receptive to series x price cuts.
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