Xbox Series S [XBSS] (Lockhart) General Rumors and Speculation *spawn*

Sorry, didn’t realize that wasn’t allowed.

Not to challenge that or anything, but out of curiosity, weren’t the false next gen specs from ResetEra?

 

The entirely false rumors were from insiders at both of those places. One was far worse than the other.

 

Amazon now shows both Xbox One S as discontinued

 

It would be kind of awful to have 4 SKUs of "Xbox" simultaneously.

 

The best scenario is definitely for MS to replace the XBox One entirely with Series S at a similar price. If they do that but it’s $299 they would be cutting off their low cost last-gen tail. If they keep around one or two XBO SKUs it would be pretty confusing for the consumer. But Series S at $249 or (probably not) $199 and eliminating XBO would be a great move to build next-gen momentum.

 

Wonder what clockspeed they'll choose to run those 20CUs at? I make it:

5500XT base (1.65GHz) = 4.2TF
Xbox Series X (1.825GHz) = 4.6TF
PS5 (2.3GHz) = 5.7TF

The first one or slightly lower presumably.

 

All depends on yields and power targets. I know they are just over 4.2 but i've been told they could get close to 6tflops. S i'm going to go some where between series x clocks and ps5 clocks if yields are good

 

At same clocks and 24 CUs active, you'd get 5.6 TFs. Sounds close enough to 6? There may only be 20 CUs with none deactivated, depending on yields and configuration.

There were quite wide ranges of performance targets for LockHart, all depending on what configuration they opt for.

 

Agreed. A low end box allows transitioning to next gen for those who find a $400-$500 price tag not appealing.

Instead of having a number of gamers still attached to last gen hardware where software supports dwindles every day. You move them over to cheaper next gen hardware where newer next gen software and services can do a better job of enticing them to spend.

In previous gens you had a ton of gamers sitting on the next gen sideline waiting for hardware to be affordable. Those gamers needed to wait 2-4 years before contributing to revenue of the newer platforms. If you can pull those gamers in at the start of the gen, you can get more gamers spending over the entire life of the console and not the last half or third of the platform’s lifetime.

 

Yep. Lockhart will not have a GPU clock higher than Xsx.

 

Sorry, but dont post such low quality rumors, they should not be posted on B3D. Their vetting process mean F-for-all. All their vetted insiders were wrong about hardware specs as well.

Also, when something is removed at least once, it doesn't mean that you should post it again.

 

That's a fairly wide target...

 

To be clear on this point, if something is worth discussing, the Mods will spawn it off into a new thread. If your content is removed and not spawned, it means don't try again.

 

Now, with that said, there may be some concepts that are worth discussing. They were brought to light by other earlier leaks, such as the software dev environment leaks and software release notes leaks. Perhaps this rumor was sparked by those.

I have posted some possible discussion points in the general thread:

https://forum.beyond3d.com/posts/2137988/

 

Add 4 cu's to the equation and numbers jump quite quickly

 

Yup, 4 CUs is an extra 20%. Nothing to sneeze at.

 

Clocks would still have to be higher than XSX to hit 6TF with 24 CUs. Although you could round it up.




No idea what that means power/heat wise. In principle it doesn't matter, given what they crammed into the OneX, other than the small matter of cost.

 

Right....but where are these extra 4 CU's coming from? I thought the rumour was that it was 20 CU's...

 

Well... if you want to save on mb layout and components, cooling, power unit, size, dices...