Xbox Series S [XBSS] [Release November 10 2020]

[BRiT]

This is the technical thread for Lockhart.

Official Introducing the Product: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/09/introducing-xbox-series-s/


Specification Comparison with Series S and X:

Estimated Retail Price: $299 direct or Xbox All Access with Game Pass Ultimate @ $25 a month for 24 months, and £249.99 direct for those in the UK, and $379.99 Beaver Bucks for those in Canada.

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Releases November 10 2020.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303230071033880576

Trailer:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303371127482232834

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Rough Size Comparison:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303284300071219200

 

[BRiT]

Pricing for Canada:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303352332919476225

 

[BRiT]

Pricing for the UK:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303246742519984129

 

[BRiT]

Internals:

Inside the Series S:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303687722205196290

 

[see colon]

I'm curious why they included a hardware scaler in Series S. Modern GPUs can scale a 1440p render target to 4k pretty well. Having a hardware solution makes me wonder if there is something like a fixed AA/sharpening combo that gives a better result.

 

[Strange]

"Over 4x XB1S", that would mean it's >5.6 TFLOPS

Last gen flops or next gen flops?

 

[iroboto]

Last gen flops or next gen flops?

He quoted the wrong area:

>> Xbox Series S delivers approximately 3x the GPU performance of Xbox One
~4.2 TF

They continue to advertise that SFS is only on their next gen consoles - so it's either their version of SFS, or the entire SFS feature.

 

[BRiT]

I'm still working on updating the first post with the official specs or whatever details they released so far. But let the thread open.

 

[HBRU]

I'm curious why they included a hardware scaler in Series S. Modern GPUs can scale a 1440p render target to 4k pretty well. Having a hardware solution makes me wonder if there is something like a fixed AA/sharpening combo that gives a better result.

So it seems

 

[fehu]

not being able to reply on the SS thread

It is similar in CPU

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/09/introducing-xbox-series-s/

 

[Strange]

not being able to reply on the SS thread



https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/09/introducing-xbox-series-s/

the fact that they posted this image

It should be official. confusing specs to say the least

Interesting points:

CPU is the same but running at 3.6Ghz and 3.4 with SMT, both 0.2 Ghz slower than the X
20 CUs at 1.565 Ghz = 4Tflops.

Ram is really odd
for the S
10 GB GDDR6 RAM
8GB at 224GB/s
2GB at 56GB/s

for the x
16 GB GDDR6 RAM
10GB at 560GB/s
6GB at 336GB/s

that''s what? less than half?

other stuff is identical

 

[AzBat]

That 2GB @ 56GB/s looks like a misprint surely?

Tommy McClain

 

[iroboto]

That 2GB @ 56GB/s looks like a misprint surely?

Tommy McClain

should be correct.

 

[AzBat]

should be correct.

OK, ELI5.

Tommy McClain

 

[Strange]

That 2GB @ 56GB/s looks like a misprint surely?

Tommy McClain

No, they're utilizing 4 chips, one 4 GB and three 2GBs to hit 10GB. Thus resulting in this really odd config.

 

[iroboto]

OK, ELI5.

Tommy McClain

4 chips

No, they're utilizing 4 chips, one 4 GB and three
2GBs to hit 10GB. Thus resulting in this really odd config.

As per ^^

3x 2GB = 32 bits * 4 chips * 14000 Mhz / 8 bits = 224 GB/s
1x 4GB = 32 bit * 1 chip * 14000 Mhz / 8 bits = 56 GB/s

 

[Lalaland]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303711165814648832

A comparison for the OP, bizarre that they kept the RAM split for the 10GB unit?

 

[cheapchips]

A comparison for the OP, bizarre that they kept the RAM split for the 10GB unit?

It's presumably a cheaper to have the slower 2GB of memory since it'll only be running the system reserve in that space anyway.

 

[iroboto]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303711165814648832

A comparison for the OP, bizarre that they kept the RAM split for the 10GB unit?

$$$$$

 

[Jay]

That 2GB @ 56GB/s looks like a misprint surely?

Tommy McClain

Anyway as long as its fast enough for the OS which will be using it, all is fine.