We obviously need some kind of firewall to block the connections Windows is making to whatever ad-server it's fetching this shit from...
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I believe only the daily challenges/etc. have ads or require a subscription. I think the "vanilla portions" (what you got in previous versions of Windows) do not have ads even if you don't pay.
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I'm not moving to Win 10 right now so can't say, but only time will tell ...
. I imagine they will nickel and dime customers as their personal data vaccums reveal potential new areas/applications to monetize.Edit: I think Solitaire may be a "test" case to determine whether it's viable as well as determining customer backlash regarding displaying Ads.
Michellstar
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As much i disliked the charm bars, I daily used the "devices" icon where I easily switched between my desktop monitor and my TV, now I can get the "project" menu on the right side pressing win+p, but I have to get up from bed lol...
Is there a way to access this menu just using the mouse?? (I mapped the mouse to an Xbox 360 controller).
An my second "live saviour" feature that I am missing, Can I get recent opened files on the frigging new start menu??
I has to be really obvious, but i can´t find it
Is there a way to access this menu just using the mouse?? (I mapped the mouse to an Xbox 360 controller).
An my second "live saviour" feature that I am missing, Can I get recent opened files on the frigging new start menu??
I has to be really obvious, but i can´t find it
RancidLunchmeat
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My W10 thoughts...
I joined the preview program back whenever it was to test streaming from XB1, so I've had it since that feature launched as part of the two preview programs. It was buggy as hell, Edge just would flat out not work sometimes - gives weird error messages and not load webpages, it wouldn't be able to open .docx files in Word 2013, it wouldn't always detect my NAS and required reboots to recognize it, and WTF is the point of these app things to the left of the screen?
I finally got the retail version, which took longer to download and install (significantly longer to install than the preview), but I had to do it by manually searching for updates. Why? So, my thoughts on the current retail version:
Xbox App - Yeah, there's nothing there.
Xbox Store - Yeah, that's confusing. It looks like it's full of mobile games, but then some of them show Xbox covers and look like maybe 360 games? There's nothing AAA or new in there.
Account Management - This is annoying as hell. My local account has admin rights and no password because my GF also uses this computer (its our HTPC) to watch whatever and do whatever. W10 doesn't like that one bit. It wants everything to be tied to a Microsoft Account, which means it keeps 1) Asking me to log in with my microsoft account, 2) asking me for my microsoft account password, 3) asking me to create a pin to log in with that account instead. Except it doesn't remember the PIN! Each time I switch users between various microsoft accounts and the local account, I have to go through the entire process again. I really don't want to leave my microsoft account logged into the system because that gives access to - my microsoft account! Yet, in order to get W10 to fully function, you need more than a local account apparently.
Edge - still borked. Sometimes it simply doesn't work and instead of pulling up a webpage it just displays a bunch of gibberish. It's not even like broken java script, I have no idea what it is.
WiFi Sense - keeps telling me I need to configure the WiFi sense feature. Okay, great. Except this PC has no WiFi functionality. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to let W10 know that it isn't "configured properly" because it doesn't exist!.
Outlook - another annoying notification that keeps popping up telling me that it isn't properly configured. Well, great. I can properly configure it by giving it my credentials. and then anybody using the computer can read all my associated emails!
I guess there's some way to turn these notifications off, but maybe there will be an important notification that I actually care about at some point?
The integrating of the microsoft account into the OS is really irritating considering it appears that with only a local account, you lose a great deal of functionality. It gives the same "Your account needs to be "fixed" message, and in order to fix it, you are required to create a password or use a MS account.
Let me use my computer the way I want, MS!
I joined the preview program back whenever it was to test streaming from XB1, so I've had it since that feature launched as part of the two preview programs. It was buggy as hell, Edge just would flat out not work sometimes - gives weird error messages and not load webpages, it wouldn't be able to open .docx files in Word 2013, it wouldn't always detect my NAS and required reboots to recognize it, and WTF is the point of these app things to the left of the screen?
I finally got the retail version, which took longer to download and install (significantly longer to install than the preview), but I had to do it by manually searching for updates. Why? So, my thoughts on the current retail version:
Xbox App - Yeah, there's nothing there.
Xbox Store - Yeah, that's confusing. It looks like it's full of mobile games, but then some of them show Xbox covers and look like maybe 360 games? There's nothing AAA or new in there.
Account Management - This is annoying as hell. My local account has admin rights and no password because my GF also uses this computer (its our HTPC) to watch whatever and do whatever. W10 doesn't like that one bit. It wants everything to be tied to a Microsoft Account, which means it keeps 1) Asking me to log in with my microsoft account, 2) asking me for my microsoft account password, 3) asking me to create a pin to log in with that account instead. Except it doesn't remember the PIN! Each time I switch users between various microsoft accounts and the local account, I have to go through the entire process again. I really don't want to leave my microsoft account logged into the system because that gives access to - my microsoft account! Yet, in order to get W10 to fully function, you need more than a local account apparently.
Edge - still borked. Sometimes it simply doesn't work and instead of pulling up a webpage it just displays a bunch of gibberish. It's not even like broken java script, I have no idea what it is.
WiFi Sense - keeps telling me I need to configure the WiFi sense feature. Okay, great. Except this PC has no WiFi functionality. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to let W10 know that it isn't "configured properly" because it doesn't exist!.
Outlook - another annoying notification that keeps popping up telling me that it isn't properly configured. Well, great. I can properly configure it by giving it my credentials. and then anybody using the computer can read all my associated emails!
I guess there's some way to turn these notifications off, but maybe there will be an important notification that I actually care about at some point?
The integrating of the microsoft account into the OS is really irritating considering it appears that with only a local account, you lose a great deal of functionality. It gives the same "Your account needs to be "fixed" message, and in order to fix it, you are required to create a password or use a MS account.
Let me use my computer the way I want, MS!
Blazkowicz
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What do you really need a blank admin password for? With at least Windows 7 you can set the PC up for auto-login (any OS, really) and then the default behavior is to grant admin access when you click "Yes" on a UAC prompt, without giving a password.
RancidLunchmeat
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Yes, that's exactly how the PC worked when it was running W7.
The default, blank, local account needs admin rights so programs can be updated/installed? Unfortunately, lots of things still require Flash and I'd never hear the end of it if my gf wasn't able to watch her dumb reality shows all day on her day off while I'm at work because she couldn't install an update. Sure, I could create a password and tell her what it is, but why should I have to when I didn't have to with W7?
edit: But I guess you are correct, the easiest thing to do is give the local account a password and see how many of my problems that solves rather than fighting with W10 and getting annoyed.
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A relative of mine just asked me to do the free upgrade from Win7 to Win10 on her notebook.
Can I just download the official MS Win10 ISO image, put it on a USB stick and do a clean install using Win7's product key from my relative's notebook?
Forgive me if it has been answered before, but I'm out of the loop since I won't upgrade until next year.
Can I just download the official MS Win10 ISO image, put it on a USB stick and do a clean install using Win7's product key from my relative's notebook?
Forgive me if it has been answered before, but I'm out of the loop since I won't upgrade until next year.
Infinisearch
Veteran
I think you need to do the upgrade first to activate the 10 license. As to whether or not you can do that from the ISO... I'm not sure but I think I read yes on Neogaf, check there.
RancidLunchmeat
Veteran
Hmm.... Where'd you hear that?
The only thing the MS page says is that if you are doing a clean install you need your product key, and you don't need your product key if you just do the upgrade?
reading on ars, after you uograde the license for thst machine will be saved on ms account.
dunnobhiw the clean install will work. butbrven if you can't use e7 key, you should be able to use generic w10 key.
windoesnhave no problem with changine key license post install
dunnobhiw the clean install will work. butbrven if you can't use e7 key, you should be able to use generic w10 key.
windoesnhave no problem with changine key license post install
If you're taking advantage of the free upgrade offer, you need to do an upgrade first. Then you can do clean installs. They've given the installation media out, but it requires a Windows 10 key to activate. If you don't upgrade first, you won't have a Windows 10 key. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
the free upgrade offer https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-upgrade
extensive FAQ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/Windows-10-faq
Summarized by Ars http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/how-to-do-a-clean-install-of-windows-10-from-windows-7-and-8/
Sounds like Microsoft takes an image of your hardware that it uses to validate the key. So you can do clean installs on the same PC without entering the key again. But if you change the hardware too much you just have to call Microsoft to reactivate it. I've done that on a Windows PC at work before.
Do you know if there are any difference between the MSDN Win10 ISO and the ones created by the "Windows 10 download tool"?
I've made a reservation but haven't received the upgrade notification yet. I already have the MSDN ISO on an USB stick, and I'm thinking about using it for the upgrade and clean install instead of the Win10 download tool.
Drunk?
Also, I don't have any MS account (I skipped that shit when it first appeared in Win8), so I guess I have to extract my key and enter it manually when it's time to re-install from scratch. Or maybe MS saves the key for me when Win10 first activates without me needing an actual MS account... Who knows?
Kyyla
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I just installed an upgrade from windows 7 to W10 booting from a USB stick, no problems.
AFAIK There's no substantive difference between the MSDN ISO, the MS download tool, or the install.esd that is downloaded by WU. If you're just upgrading you can run the setup.exe contained in those images from any drive you like, you don't need to boot from media.
For a clean install, first upgrade, then format and install from an ISO. Write down your 7/8 key first in case something goes wrong.
For a clean install, first upgrade, then format and install from an ISO. Write down your 7/8 key first in case something goes wrong.
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