Sony Playstation Meeting September 7 2016 [PS4 Slim, PS4 Pro, Rumors, Speculations, and News]

I think 1.4 can only support UHD at 24/30Hz so it's limited to 24/30Hz media and not above (which would include most movies). Maybe the problem is HDR + UHD.

 

If their implementation was flexible enough to be able recieve HDR compatibility after the fact, and the bandwith enough to do 30fps nonHDR content at 4k (99% of media) the only thing keeping them from adding that feature through firmware is marketing.

 

The bandwidth required for HDR and UHD resolution aside, if I'm not mistaken, HDCP 2.2 is a requirement for streaming content protected 4k media as well. I'm not sure what the hardware/software requirements are for implementing that.

 

HDCP 2.2 needed for protected video.
4k Youtube could be available on og PS4 if Sony wanted (not really).

 

Ah, good point, protected 4k video not simply any 4k video. Post updated to reflect that.

 

Why would Sony not want? Or do you meant they wouldn't bother, since the original PS4 is about to be EOL'd anyways?


I also think it's a bit dumb that the PS4 Slim doesn't have HDCP 2.2 and UHD/HDR Netflix. That thing is just stupid, but it looks like Sony practically didn't touch the SoC in anything other than the shrink itself.
Meh..

 

Because they have Pro for that. Product segregation.

 

Exactly. Not everything is caused by technology alone.

 

This is another idiotic example of our economic system

 

It's not just economics. Its consuner behavior. Many purchases don't understand the ramificantions of technology, nor do they need/want to.
Compare
"It plays Netflix and youtube in 4k, but not games, but sort of because it upscales, but neo does nativelly but not exactly either because it also upscales but its less, and smart temporal reconstruction..."
Versus: "with slim you get 1080p. With pro you get 4k. PERIOD."
Confusion is one kind of thing that can make many people think twice before a purchase, or put it off for later. When a layman walks into the store, money in hand, you wanna have a product line that is as straightfoward and easy to describe/diferentiate as possible.

 

It's basically the same as Apple forcing to choose either 16GB or 64GB. Or now on iphone 7 32GB or 128GB.

 

Its all behavioral economics.
Exploiting lack of information/knowledge of the consumer and not allowing a product to offer the full features it is capable of in order to promote another at a premium price is part of what is wrong with the economic system we are running.

 

The success seems to be that the slim is exactly the same feature set as the fat, as they always did with slim revisions. Amazon sales ranking and the high resale value of the fat supports this.

They don't care if you buy a slim, or a pro, or even a used ps4... As long as you buy a playstation. They don't profit from hardware.

 

Not sure if that was a response to my post, but regardless if they profit from hardware or not, they still want to communicate the extra value of Pro and part of that may be the deliberate exclusion of 4K streaming services on the PS4 Slim and Fat. Part of that extra value may be artificial.

 

Artificial? Or maybe they just didn't think the expense of adding hdmi 2.2 and h.265 hardware to the slim was worthwhile, especially since they were introducing a 4K focused product already.

 

We werent talking about hardware additions to the slim. We talked about the current PS4 and slim's ability to output 4k streaming services which seems is possbible at 30fps via firmware update

 

I'm too lazy to check all benchmarks here
https://www.reddit.com/r/htpc/comments/31gw0u/
but is the PS4 CPU powerful enough to decode H.265 4K stream (15-18Mbps for Netflix apparently) at 30fps?

 

The existing hdmi transmitter is obviously flexible, but not necessarily able to support the new content protection requirements mandated by 2.2 and used by 4k streaming services.

 

XBOX One S does it so the answer is most likely yes

 

Xbox slim has updated hardware decoding to do it. It's not doing it in software.