Rumble Roses developer on PS3 & X360

[dskneo]

RSX tapeout (Compatibility with Cell with FLEXIO) is not the same as upgrading from 6800 to 7800, RSX and G70 share essentially the SAME inner workings except for the fact that RSX has lesser memory bandwidth than 7800 GTX which is currently in development kits. it has a faster clock than 7800 GTX , slightly higher vertices performance, slightly higher shader performance, slightly higher shader ops per second and more transistors than 7800 GTX, its like the difference between the medium version of 7800 and GTX 7800

when losing arguments, you switch subjects just like that? because i forgot the point when conversation changed to what you are talking about.... oh way, it didn't.

Tape-out as nothing to do with this... Tape-out its when a design is ready to be "waffled lol", real hardware.

and you are still thinking RSX is just a G70 with little changes here and there... 3 years working together its not "little changes".

 

[onetimeposter]

when losing arguments, you switch subjects just like that? because i forgot the point when conversation changed to what you are talking about.... oh way, it didn't.

Tape-out as nothing to do with this... Tape-out its when a design is ready to be "waffled lol", real hardware.

and you are still thinking RSX is just a G70 with little changes here and there... 3 years working together its not "little changes".

yes the RSX is essentially the g70 with a higher clock and slightly upped numbers on things like shaders. also it connecting with FlexIO connection. its ok to admit that one console has a better hardware than the other, like Cell is better than Xbox 360 CPU architecture

 

[dskneo]

yes the RSX is essentially the g70 with a higher clock and slightly upped numbers on things like shaders. also it connecting with FlexIO connection. its ok to admit that one console has a better hardware than the other, like Cell is better than Xbox 360 CPU architecture

link-me.... dont bother, you cant, because you are speculating about rsx. We have no Info if RSX is just a G70. no info at all!
its what you want to believe.

Think.... 3 years of work just to let nvidia do its G70 and just tweak it in the last 11 months or so?

nonsense.

bottom line.... you were twisting rumble roses dev Words to your taste.
Better hardware its not what we are talking about... its about you making up FACTS.

 

[dukmahsik]

link-me.... dont bother, you cant, because you are speculating about rsx. We have no Info if RSX is just a G70. no info at all!
its what you want to believe.

Think.... 3 years of work just to let nvidia do its G70 and just tweak it in the last 11 months or so?

nonsense.

bottom line.... you were twisting rumble roses dev Words to your taste.

they did that with xbox's gpu didnt they???

 

[onetimeposter]

link-me.... dont bother, you cant, because you are speculating about rsx. We have no Info if RSX is just a G70. no info at all!
its what you want to believe.

Think.... 3 years of work just to let nvidia do its G70 and just tweak it in the last 11 months or so?

nonsense.

bottom line.... you were twisting rumble roses dev Words to your taste.

An nVidia spokesperson was quoted in PlayStation Magazine as saying that the 7800GTX "shares a lot of similar inner workings with the PS3's RSX chip, only it (the 7800GTX) isn't as fast."

 

[dskneo]

they did that with xbox's gpu didnt they???

i dont know do the search. I did mine about RSX date, what nvidia did with microsoft i dont even care.

i'm talking onetimeposter BS down... not making a fight about whos bigger, Ps3 ou X2

 

[onetimeposter]

i dont know do the search. I did mine about RSX date, what nvidia did with microsoft i dont even care.

i'm talking onetimeposter BS down... not making a fight about whos bigger, Ps3 ou X2

buy the latest PSM magazine. it has the qoute of g70 and RSX being essentially the same , except RSX has a faster clock and slightly higher shading numbers

 

[dskneo]

An nVidia spokesperson was quoted in PlayStation Magazine as saying that the 7800GTX "shares a lot of similar inner workings with the PS3's RSX chip, only it (the 7800GTX) isn't as fast."

the same PSM magazine you laugh about when they said killzone was real-time at 5fps? or when Gabe showed more interest in PS3?...

you believe them now?..... lol hypocrisy.

look, even inside your head you know that 3 years is to much damn time to just tweak a G70 off the shelve.
I'm speaking my guts here. I wont even claim its gonna be faster than Xe-gpu... i cant. (you can apparently)

 

[onetimeposter]

the same PSM magazine you laugh about when they said killzone was real-time at 5fps? or when Gabe showed more interest in PS3?...

you believe them now?..... lol hypocrisy.

look, even inside your head you know that 3 years is to much damn time to just tweak a G70 off the shelve.
I'm speaking my guts here. I wont even claim its gonna be faster than Xe-gpu... i cant. (you can apparently)

Why dont you qoute me where Gabe said hes more interested in PS3, this was an NVIDIA spokesperson, not the speculation of the magaizine. the Developer of Killzone already said its CG, and the Nvidia spokesperson (not the designer but the PR person) said g70 and RSX use the same technology.

Its fun to see you reaching for straws. because , frankly, i dont give up if you go after me. I have knowledge, it seems some people dont unfortunately for the benefit of gaming

 

[onanie]

Why dont you qoute me where Gabe said hes more interested in PS3, this was an NVIDIA spokesperson, not the speculation of the magaizine. the Developer of Killzone already said its CG, and the Nvidia spokesperson (not the designer but the PR person) said g70 and RSX use the same technology.

Its fun to see you reaching for straws. because , frankly, i dont give up if you go after me. I have knowledge, it seems some people dont unfortunately for the benefit of gaming

I think the onus is on you providing a direct quote where PSM did say "g70 and RSX being essentially the same , except RSX has a faster clock and slightly higher shading numbers", not a loosely recalled one.

 

[DigitalSoul]

I would say this thread has gotten out of hand, but I think its beyond that now.

 

[onetimeposter]

I think the onus is on you providing a direct quote where PSM did say "g70 and RSX being essentially the same , except RSX has a faster clock and slightly higher shading numbers", not a loosely recalled one.

http://www.ps3portal.com/?view=article&article=176
http://www.filerush.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3480

its all over the web

just google " playstation magazine 7800GTX "

 

[dskneo]

Why dont you qoute me where Gabe said hes more interested in PS3, this was an NVIDIA spokesperson, not the speculation of the magaizine. the Developer of Killzone already said its CG, and the Nvidia spokesperson (not the designer but the PR person) said g70 and RSX use the same technology.

Its fun to see you reaching for straws. because , frankly, i dont give up if you go after me. I have knowledge, it seems some people dont unfortunately for the benefit of gaming

pall.... i already took down your "knowledge" in 2 ways i meant of doing:
1- that Sony-Nvidia are only working for 1 year. when the truth is more like 3 years.
That you cant refute.

2- that "SETTNG A NEW STANDARD" is used when the first generation hardware arrives... be it PC-GPU's CPU's Consoles whatever.
he could never said PS3 because she does not exist....

all the stuff about G70=RSX , its speculation..... PSM saying it shares some of its things, its just that. Until we know what IT ISN'T SHARED, we cant tell which is better.
i cant, you cant... no-one except nvidia or sony cant.

 

[onetimeposter]

pall.... i already took down your "knowledge" in 2 ways i meant of doing:
1- that Sony-Nvidia are only working for 1 year. when the truth is more like 3 years.
That you cant refute.

2- that "SETTNG A NEW STANDARD" is used when the first generation hardware arrives... be it PC-GPU's CPU's Consoles whatever.
he could never said PS3 because she does not exist....

all the stuff about G70=RSX , its speculation..... PSM saying it shares some of its things, its just that. Until we know what IT ISN'T SHARED, we cant tell which is better.
i cant, you cant... no-one except nvidia or sony cant.

http://www.nforcershq.com/article3417.html

bit-tech.net chats with NVIDIA's David Kirk and discusses upcoming NVIDIA technology, the G70, PS3 RSX - and what the future holds for PC gamers:

The graphics processor in the PlayStation 3 is NVIDIA-designed and is called RSX. How does it compare next to the 7800? "The two products share the same heritage, the same technology. But RSX is faster," said Kirk.

"At the time consoles are announced, they are so far beyond what people are used to, it's unimaginable," David comments. "At the time they're shipped, there's a narrower window until the next PC architecture." In other words, RSX looks incredible now, but when it launches, there'll be a smaller time until PC looks better. However, what consoles have is a huge price advantage."

And 'huge' is the appropriate word: pricing is still to be announed by Sony, but Playstation 3 could debut at £399 - the price of a 7800GTX board, yet offering so much more.

hows that for a qoute

 

[onanie]

http://www.ps3portal.com/?view=article&article=176
http://www.filerush.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3480

its all over the web

just google " playstation magazine 7800GTX "

I think "... g70 and RSX being essentially the same , except RSX has a faster clock and slightly higher shading numbers" is quite a bit different from "... shares a lot of similar workings with the PS3's RSX chip".

 

[onetimeposter]

I think "... g70 and RSX being essentially the same , except RSX has a faster clock and slightly higher shading numbers" is quite a bit different from "... shares a lot of similar workings with the PS3's RSX chip".

look at the qoute above you

this is fun, why dont you guys ACCEPT that G70 is the same as RSX except slightly higher numbers and faster clock. its a FACT! please dont deny this atleast.

 

[dukmahsik]

link-me.... dont bother, you cant, because you are speculating about rsx. We have no Info if RSX is just a G70. no info at all!
its what you want to believe.

Think.... 3 years of work just to let nvidia do its G70 and just tweak it in the last 11 months or so?

nonsense.

bottom line.... you were twisting rumble roses dev Words to your taste.

they did that with xbox's gpu didnt they???

 

[dskneo]

http://www.nforcershq.com/article3417.html


hows that for a qoute

Does that Quote tells you WHAT G70 and RSX share?....
does it tell you how many pipelines it has?... how many shadders it has?

so, if you CANT tell me the most BASIC information, how the hell can you tell me that Xe-GPU > RSX ? just because memxeport and USA?

ridiculous man... i cant, you cant, nobody can. So quit the talk.

 

[dskneo]

they did that with xbox's gpu didnt they???

i already told you to do the search your self....

 

[onetimeposter]

Does that Quote tells you WHAT G70 and RSX share?....
does it tell you how many pipelines it has?... how many shadders it has?

so, if you CANT tell me the most BASIC information, how the hell can you tell me that Xe-GPU > RSX ? just because memxeport and USA?

ridiculous man... i cant, you cant, nobody can. So quit the talk.

look what he said " same heritage, same technology, only faster"

thats the simplest explanation you can get. if you cant understand that. im really really sorry.