Rumble Roses developer on PS3 & X360

[onetimeposter]

You absolutely have no idea what you're talking about. My head melts even trying to wrap around the ignorance.

Look, take what the developer said. I'm not going to say anymore.

I dont know why you are not understanding. Rendering is like Final Fantasy CGI while Graphics when he said it meant game graphics (ingame graphics) its different. dont tell me you think PS3 render and ingame will be the same

 

[Titanio]

I dont know why you are not understanding. Rendering is like Final Fantasy CGI while Graphics when he said it meant game graphics (ingame graphics) its different. dont tell me you think PS3 render and ingame will be the same

Again, my head melts.

What you're ps3 and x360 will do is render. Any graphics you see are rendered.

Offline rendering is what you see in movies. In games you see realtime rendering. Rendering is not a phrase that relates only to the first. Games render graphics, they just do it 60 times or 30 times a second. Movies render graphics, and spend hours per frame.

This is so elementary. Look, just read what devs are saying.

 

[onetimeposter]

Again, my head melts.

What you're ps3 and x360 will do is render. Any graphics you see are rendered.

Offline rendering is what you see in movies. In games you see realtime rendering. Rendering is not a phrase that relates only to the first. Games render graphics, they just do it 60 times or 30 times a second. Movies render graphics, and spend hours per frame.

the developer said Xbox 360 has set a new standard in graphics and looking at Xenos, i dont think, that RSX will surpass that standard

 

[Titanio]

the developer said Xbox 360 has set a new standard in graphics

And it WILL. Like every system before it! How many times do I have to say this? Did PS2 setting the standard graphically at its launch make it more powerful than Xbox? His comment, this comment, has no bearing on ps3/x360 comparison, there is no comparison made there. His other comment does make a comparison, and does even address rendering (which IS graphics).

 

[onetimeposter]

And it WILL. Like every system before it! How many times do I have to say this? Did PS2 setting the standard graphically at its launch make it more powerful than Xbox? His comment, this comment, has no bearing on ps3/x360 comparison, there is no comparison made there. His other comment does make a comparison, and does even address rendering (which IS graphics).

and it will REMAIN the standard of graphics after RSX looking at Xenos numbers, features and architecture. The thing you have to understand is Sony dedicated itself to Cell and microsoft dedicated itself to Xenos. Both will be stronger to the other's counterparts

 

[Bobbler]

And it WILL. Like every system before it! How many times do I have to say this? Did PS2 setting the standard graphically at its launch make it more powerful than Xbox? His comment, this comment, has no bearing on ps3/x360 comparison, there is no comparison made there. His other comment does make a comparison, and does even address rendering (which IS graphics).

Just give up...

 

[blakjedi]

But you're happy to delude yourself even when third party devs who've access to both pieces of kit come out and say things along similar lines.

Who will it take telling you this? God?

It is becoming purely delusional at this stage.

Why would someone who is a first party, in-house dev, whose bread and butter is one system have either a) access to the competitors system or b) an even handed view of the power of his "competition"?

 

[avaya]

Jesus Christ its system wars…

Read again what Uchida says:

GI: Have you had a chance to mess around with the PlayStation 3 yet?

Uchida: Yes, it’s amazing. And just because I am working on the Xbox 360, doesn’t mean I will never work on the PS3. I have not converted. Its not like the PS3 is an enemy.

GI: What do you think you could pull off on one system that you could not on another?

Uchida: I think there are some things you can do with the PS3 than you cannot with the 360. The processing speed is much quicker. The rendering variation that the PS3 offers is wider. But the online of the 360 is amazing and is probably better than the PS3.

We have people dissecting fine cuts from random dev comments. The interview probably even wasn’t in English!

We have “X360 sets a new standard in graphics†vs. PS3 is “amazingâ€, “does things you can’t on 360â€, it’s “processing speed is quicker†and the oddly phrased “the rendering variation that the PS3 offers is widerâ€

I think it’s a blatant give away he thinks the PS3 more powerful piece of kit when he stops speaking about it, that he finishes by extolling the virtues of XBL.

Why was I suckered into this?

Anyway if the interview wasn’t in English I’d say a lot of what he meant to say was probably lost in translation....good film that.

 

[Titanio]

and it will REMAIN the standard of graphics after RSX looking at Xenos numbers, features and architecture.

That's not what the dev said, that's what YOU said.

Just give up...

It is pretty hopeless, but it's hilarious at the same time. But saddening to see here also.

Why would someone who is a first party, in-house dev, whose bread and butter is one system have either a) access to the competitors system or b) an even handed view of the power of his "competition"?

Please read the original post, and the dev who is saying this. We're not talking about Jaffe here.

 

[therealskywolf]

And it WILL. Like every system before it! How many times do I have to say this? Did PS2 setting the standard graphically at its launch make it more powerful than Xbox? His comment, this comment, has no bearing on ps3/x360 comparison, there is no comparison made there. His other comment does make a comparison, and does even address rendering (which IS graphics).

He didn't say it will. It says it has set. Neither console has launched buddy. And the he talks about rendering variations being WIDER - 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, dual screen.

Jesus, stop Titanio, Ps3 -> Xbox 360 isn't gonna be Ps2--> Dreamcast or Xbox--> Ps2, it's 5 months VS 2 years.

Get a clue.

 

[onetimeposter]

That's not what the dev said, that's what YOU said.



It is pretty hopeless, but it's hilarious at the same time. But saddening to see here also.



Please read the original post, and the dev who is saying this. We're not talking about Jaffe here.

thats what every knowledgable person knowing xenos expects

 

[Titanio]

He didn't say it will. It says it has set. Neither console has launched buddy. And the he talks about rendering variations being WIDER - 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, dual screen.

So "rendering variation is wider" means more resolution. Thank god we have a good interpreter in you, therealskywolf, cause honestly, I couldn't see how anyone could have a balls notion what exactly he was discussing there, other than that it relates to rendering. But you've shown us exactly what he meant. Cheers.

This isn't worth discussing anymore, we're going round in circles to the point of exasperation. Believe what you wanna believe.

 

[Bobbler]

thats what every knowledgable person knowing xenos expects

What planet are you from? Most knowledge people expect it to be on par -- some knowledge people expect RSX to win, some expect Xenos to win. Don't pretend the knowledgable people who happen to agree with you are somehow correct.

You truly are delusional.

 

[onetimeposter]

Jesus Christ its system wars…

Read again what Uchida says:



We have people dissecting fine cuts from random dev comments. The interview probably even wasn’t in English!

We have “X360 sets a new standard in graphics†vs. PS3 is “amazingâ€, “does things you can’t on 360â€, it’s “processing speed is quicker†and the oddly phrased “the rendering variation that the PS3 offers is widerâ€

I think it’s a blatant give away he thinks the PS3 more powerful piece of kit when he stops speaking about it, that he finishes by extolling the virtues of XBL.

Why was I suckered into this?

Anyway if the interview wasn’t in English I’d say a lot of what he meant to say was probably lost in translation....good film that.

ofcourse he would say its amazing. you expect him to say "its OK or it sucks" its pretty obvious he thinks both systems are amazing, and he thinks xbox 360 gfx will be great and PS3 cell will be great

 

[onetimeposter]

What planet are you from? Most knowledge people expect it to be on par -- some knowledge people expect RSX to win, some expect Xenos to win. Don't pretend the knowledgable people who happen to agree with you are somehow correct.

You truly are delusional.

whatever makes you happy.

 

[therealskywolf]

So "rendering variation is wider" means more resolution. Thank god we have a good interpreter in you, therealskywolf, cause honestly, I couldn't see how anyone could have a balls notion what exactly he was discussing there, other than that it relates to rendering. But you've shown us exactly what he meant. Cheers.

This isn't worth discussing anymore, we're going round in circles to the point of exasperation. Believe what you wanna believe.

Sure buddy. I guess i understand you, you need to justify the "Why i'm only choosing a PS3". I'm just trying to say, in the end they'll end up being pretty much comparable.

Shit, i bought a PS2 and a Xbox, and while i think Xbox is the clear cut winner in graphics i think the best graphics on the Ps2 rival with the some of the best on the Xbox, this time it's going to be even better, because there will be even less differences bettween the two, so my eyes won't have to "re-adjust" to each system lol.

Peace

 

[avaya]

ofcourse he would say its amazing. you expect him to say "its OK or it sucks" its pretty obvious he thinks both systems are amazing, and he thinks xbox 360 gfx will be great and PS3 cell will be great

You seem to be a man on a crusade Mr Ahmad.

Anyway this thread was potential flamebait from the beginning. Shame this forums being dragged down to this level.

 

[dskneo]

the developer said Xbox 360 has set a new standard in graphics and looking at Xenos, i dont think, that RSX will surpass that standard

the more the conversation evolves, the more you reveal your self.... seriously.

how many times have i heard: "XXX has set a new standard in graphics" ?...
-i know! everytime a new generation Graphic card appears! EVERY TIME! GF-DDR GF2 GF3 GF4 R300 NV40 G70

why did G70 set a new standard in graphics and not ATI R520?
because G70 came first..

- would it make sense to you if they said R520 has set a new standard instead of G70?....
No.
why? because R520 is vaporware and G70 was right there being tested

right now, RSX is vaporware, rumors have it as a ubber-G70... rumors.
right now, Xe-gpu is done, ready, and available..
-who is setting a new standard this generation? easy, the one already here, Xe-gpu.

how easier does this get?.....
stop twisting the Devs words.

 

[onetimeposter]

You seem to be a man on a crusade Mr Ahmad.

Anyway this thread was potential flamebait from the beginning. Shame this forums being dragged down to this level.

is that a racist overtone? using my last "muslim" name which isnt even public and using Crusade ?

 

[onetimeposter]

the more the conversation evolves, the more you reveal your self.... seriously.

how many times have i heard: "XXX has set a new standard in graphics" ?...
-i know! everytime a new generation Graphic card appears! EVERY TIME! GF-DDR GF2 GF3 GF4 R300 NV40 G70

why did G70 set a new standard in graphics and not ATI R520?
because G70 came first..

- would it make sense to you if they said R520 has set a new standard instead of G70?....
No.
why? because R520 is vaporware and G70 was right there being tested

right now, RSX is vaporware, rumors have it as a ubber-G70... rumors.
right now, Xe-gpu is done, ready, and available..
-who is setting a new standard this generation? easy, the one already here, Xe-gpu.

how easier does this get?.....
stop twisting the Devs words.

G70 related to RSX, R520 does not relate to R500. anyway you should know more about me. I like Xbox 360 more than Playstation 3 but atleast I can ADMIT that X360 CPU will never surpass Cell even in 1st generation games