Pricing Discussions around AMD VEGA *over-flow*

I don't know if that's been harmonised over Europe, but here in Germany you can only dictate the price if you sell directly, you cannot officially force a retailer to adhere to your pricing scheme. There are explicit exemptions from this rule, for examle books or magazines („Preisbindung“), which Amazon sued against years ago and lost.

If you want the respective law:
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/gwb/__1.html
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/gwb/__21.html

Of course, it's one thing what is written in the law and a completely other if you can successfully sue. Common practice for example is, that commodity goods have the "UVP" (german acronym for SEP: „Unverbindliche Preisempfehlung“ with a particular emphasis of it being „unverbindlich“ (non-binding), since the „suggested“ is already in „Preisempfehlung“ -> „price suggestion“ ) printed clearly visible on a good's packaging so consumers can readily see, whether or not a particular retailer is above SEP. You can also sue shops (be they customers or competition) when you have reason to assume, they sell goods at a loss - for example when selling against the market trend and below SEP, because selling at a loss is illegal practice in germany as well (certain exceptions like clearance sales).

Other than that, you can always work with „limited supply“, while it is IMHO not legal to completely bar non-agreeing retailers, you can deliver preferred partners with better allocation for example. There's always "ways".

 

So my 290 died on me while i was at work today.......

I wonder how long to Vega 56 comes and in Oz and just how much it will cost.......

 

Vega56 is end of september, no ? EDIT : I was wrong, August 28th thx to CarstenS

Yeah the price is the big question right now. I hope AMD find a way to have Vega64 at 499 and 56 at 399 for customers (I know everything is not in their power but...). I don't want a 599 Vega64 and a 499 Vega56...

 

This thread has a devolving element that's going to require someone's time to clean up.

Nothing wrong with a little sarcasm, but when ridicule gets tossed in people take it personally because, you know, ridicule does that and then thread quality turns to spit.

Let's cut that part out before a mod has to spend time doing it.

Thanks.

 

Vega 56 is planned for August 28th.

 

It's Australia. It will be there in 3 months and cost 3 times as much. But you won't know any better since your internet is so slow, it takes 3 months to know about it.

 

Vega 56 was briefly listed already at £399 in UK including VAT, which translates to $425 without VAT, which should mean it's really $399 in the US

 

Retailers are Buying AMD RX Vega 64 at $675 Each

 

No chance. AMD has stated otherwise. There must be something else going on here.

 

scalpers..

 

I wonder how much capacity is going to compute/ SSG? Vega SSG and AMDs project 47 seem far more attractive then vegan 64 the GPU........

 

AMD should provision less cards for packs too...

Anyway, in a ideal world, RX 64 is 499$ right ? But, I wonder how Asus, MSI, etc, will do to make custom board, with better cooling solution, and still be in the 1080 range price.

 

It's obviously possible, after AMD there's first AIBs and then distributors who can both hike up the price. Considering that before Vega miners were already renting planes to get GPUs straight from AIBs, I'd suspect that AIBs have hiked up their prices a LOT because of them

 

With money everything is possible.

 

WCCFTech and exclusive, that's rich
Usually tech site claiming "Exclusive" means they actually got exclusive information straight from manufacturer or something similar, not this rumormongering WCCFTech is doing

 

Apparently yes, I doubt they'd use planes to get them from distributors which have the cards already near you http://www.businessinsider.com/cryptocurrency-miners-rent-boeing-747s-2017-7?r=UK&IR=T&IR=T

edit:
Actually, scratch that "apparently yes", of course they can, just like some retailers can order straight from AIB instead of going through the usual distributors. And for what it's worth, for what I've heard, the prices are high straight from AIB already.

 

Did something happen to make Vega attractive to miners? Last I checked it was less profitable than the gtx1070.