But it won't be the same performance. As I said already, in the same power budget you have the choice between 8 Jaguar cores at maybe 1.9 GHz and 4 BD cores at sub 3 GHz.
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hmmm, i was thinking, usually dev kits are 2x the amount of memory for software and extra wiggle room for beta testing... but that's only after the hardware is already decided. In this case nothing is yet official for the final product.
2 flavors of one dev kit you say?
maybe they are seeing which rout to take to get the job done at 1080p 60 fps...speed vs quantity. If either way is better then you can expect the manufactures to distribute both options, if that's the case then i wouldn't be surprised if sony's waiting for feedback by January to tweak the last one.
Because neogaf always believe PS4 will be mega-beast and better than Durango,and ignore or said "it's 100% fake" to every Durango>PS4 rumor
Even actually we know nothing yet
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Who knows,just don't have too much faith for both,maybe Durango/PS4 both only have Wii U level power
Because neogaf always believe PS4 will be mega-beast and better than Durango,and ignore or said "it's 100% fake" to every Durango>PS4 rumor
Even actually we know nothing yet
It's not surprising considering how casual focused IEB has become recently. I have doubts that they can shift the culture quickly enough in time for next generation.
What casual focused?they focus everything right now(inculde core,casual or even fanboys),same as Sony,same as Nintendo,no one will focused on one target anymoreIt's not surprising considering how casual focused IEB has become recently. I have doubts that they can shift the culture quickly enough in time for next generation.
But there is one big difference between MS and Sony:
I still don't know why you guys think if casual gamer is part of their target,that means it won't be powerful console,especially they have $99+2 years 360 deal now...that means they're not just can make it powerful,they can even sell it $499 and $99+2 years deal at same time,cores for former deal,casuals for latter deal(I bet Sony will follow btw)
That parallel can't be relied on though as development and tech keeps progressing producing different requirements of a devkit. We may find that they only need 4GB extra RAM above the console for development, and a 16 GB SDK means a 12 GB PS4. Or it could be they just bought in 16 GBs because it's so damned cheap there was no point not to, leaving 12 GBs above the PS4's 4GBs to do other stuff in. Or it could be the development targets have changed, and they need to run game, Gaikai engine, and portable engine, on the same machine for testing, meaning the one PC has to fit 4 GBs of PS4, 4 GBs of a test VM PC, and a gig or two of mobile device emulation.
There are plenty of unknowns meaning we can't reverse engineer console RAM size from devkit size, other than console < devkit.
That's how I read it. It an ambiguous statement. But is it's third from final kit they're talking about, it's relevance to PS4 final specs could be remote.
This'll be 8 or 16GBs DDR3 in a PC, I'm sure. Meaning it's not very applicable to the console. I'm not sure how 16 GBs would improve rendering performance over 8 GBs in a PC, but as the PS4 likely won't be based on DDR3 it won't reflect the final box anyway. RAM is more about variety of content and not rendering speeds or resolutions (although it can be used for optimisations).
A extremely conservative possibility with only 2GB of ram in Orbis is the setup below:
For games:
APU
2GB GDDR5 main ram.
For OS and apps:
ARM cortex 15 + rogue GPU
1-2 GB LDDR system ram.
Bonus: Vita emulation for free!
The mobile chips are what allows the Orbis to do everything possible with the OS while the system is playing a game.
Durango conservative possibility is the same thing except maybe for 4GB of DDR4 game ram and 4GB of DDR2 app ram. (Adds up to the rumoured eight)
I mean why use expensive main ram for apps if you know you're going to be dedicating a constant portion of it to none game functionality any ways. Since the amount for games and apps are going to be consistently split why not have two different pools of ram from the start.
For games:
APU
2GB GDDR5 main ram.
For OS and apps:
ARM cortex 15 + rogue GPU
1-2 GB LDDR system ram.
Bonus: Vita emulation for free!
The mobile chips are what allows the Orbis to do everything possible with the OS while the system is playing a game.
Durango conservative possibility is the same thing except maybe for 4GB of DDR4 game ram and 4GB of DDR2 app ram. (Adds up to the rumoured eight)
I mean why use expensive main ram for apps if you know you're going to be dedicating a constant portion of it to none game functionality any ways. Since the amount for games and apps are going to be consistently split why not have two different pools of ram from the start.
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We can list any number of IFs based on comparing wildly varying and unqualified rumours.
Even you open 10apps at same time i doubt it will need more than 2GB ram,come on,it's not PC(actually even PC i doubt it will need that much)
All I know is this has been one hell of a roller coaster ride.
Early last year people would have called you crazy for thinking that the new consoles would have 4GB of ram & people thought the PS4 & Xbox Next was going to take the Wii approach & only be a small jump in power. now there is talk of 8GB of ram in Xbox Next & a thought of 12GB in the PS4 lol.
I don't even know what to expect anymore, someone freeze me & wake me up before E3 2013.
true, where is all that talk about delivering significant jump so even your mother can tell the difference. I don't see that happening with single A10 even with integrated high bandwidth memory, maybe system with two A10's woking together will be good enough for next-gen which needs to last at least 5 years
That makes an assumption about the business model. Could be PS4 is intended to launch at £200 and be replaced in 3 years for all we know, maintaining forwards compatibility with new hardware.
We can't use the business model to help predict the hardware because we don't know what the business model is yet.
Well, if they paired the 6 compute unit system in the APU with a 12 CU discrete GPU, they would be right on the money for the 1.8 TF rumors at around 800mhz. Lower clocks will always win out in a console, less heat, less noise.
I remember the Xbox 360 devkits only had 512MB until a few years after the 360 came out.
It still burns a lot of power, it's not in the same ballpark as Jaguar or Intel counter parts.
If there is truth to the rumors I prefer more power to be burnt by the GPU
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With regard to Stream roller, sadly the new AMD road map hit the news and it appears that what they will have for 2013 is a piledriver v2.
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