Predict: The Next Generation Console Tech

[Rangers]

Durango Dev Kits are in alpha or beta state?

If a word that comes out of DaE is true, supposedly alpha (makes sense too).

That is why I'm not really expecting any rumored spec updates until such time as beta kits, whenever that may be (wild guess it may even be spring 2013?).

 

[Brimstone]

Shifty is right, that patent, as shown, does not say anything about whether a kinect sensor will be included in every box. It does, however, show that the magical room projector appears to be able to pass right through objects like the sensor without leaving shadows on the wall...

I'd guess the idea is the room is covered in carbon nanotube wallpaper. Carbon nanotubes have tremendous potential for holographic displays.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

I'd guess the idea is the room is covered in carbon nanotube wallpaper. Carbon nanotubes have tremendous potential for holographic displays.

The patent is for a projected image. Unless carbon nanotubes can reflect light obscured by other objects in the way of the projector, it's not going to help with cast shadows. The projector would need to be placed much further back, either on the floor in front of the player or on the ceiling. It's not a bad idea, but I don't see it being a commercial product any time soon.

 

[fehu]

But MS really want to push kinect?
Actually is heavely underutilized, maybe in the next generation they will keep it as an accessory just to differentiate, but not as a mark for the new platform

 

[Shifty Geezer]

But MS really want to push kinect?

What is this in reply to?

 

[N2O]

What is this in reply to?

That patent maybe?
But that tech just about display,not control,no way we can't use game pad with that,just because the guy in the picture is using Kinect to play motion games doesn't mean it's only for Kinect.

 

[fehu]

What is this in reply to?

" the idea of including a kinect sensor in box and not selling it as an accessory"

But in general to the idea that kinect will be a major aspect of the next xbox

 

[Arwin]

But MS really want to push kinect?
Actually is heavely underutilized, maybe in the next generation they will keep it as an accessory just to differentiate, but not as a mark for the new platform

I'd say it is 95% certain that they'll include Kinect with the next box, and obviously it wouldnt' be built into the chassis, since you'll want to have some flexibility as to positioning the sensors.

 

[Gerry]

I'd say it is 95% certain that they'll include Kinect with the next box, and obviously it wouldnt' be built into the chassis, since you'll want to have some flexibility as to positioning the sensors.

I'd be surprised if there aren't two SKUs, one with Kinect and one without.

 

[Arwin]

I'd be surprised if there aren't two SKUs, one with Kinect and one without.

Like now? No, I am willing to bet against that. Kinect 2.0 needs and will be included by default, for voice control for media functions, games, browsing, touch style interfacing and what not, and it is going to be 100x more effective if everyone has one.

 

[XpiderMX]

Like now? No, I am willing to bet against that. Kinect 2.0 needs and will be included by default, for voice control for media functions, games, browsing, touch style interfacing and what not, and it is going to be 100x more effective if everyone has one.

If MS want Kinect to be taken seriously they need add it on all packs.

 

[N2O]

Saw this in gaf
http://www.radgametools.com/bnkhist.htm
So there is a new Durango SDK from this month

Well after this,i guess we will some new Durango spec rumors,whatever it make sense or not

 

[ERP]

There is probably a new SDK every month, or possibly every other month, I can't remember MS's release schedule, but it's regular, either monthly, or bi-monthly.
The time you'll likely start seeing leaks is when real devkits start shipping in quantity, which is unlikely to be this year even with a 2013 launch.

 

[Devious]

Fixed a semaphore problem on Durango.

Will someone care to explain this one to me?

 

[Ruskie]

Hehe and this is from previous update, from June.

Added a new secret platform (contact us for details).

There is probably a new SDK every month, or possibly every other month, I can't remember MS's release schedule, but it's regular, either monthly, or bi-monthly.
The time you'll likely start seeing leaks is when real devkits start shipping in quantity, which is unlikely to be this year even with a 2013 launch.

Will those be the same kits that arrived earlier this year or beta kits?

 

[ERP]

I'm talking about "final" kits. i.e. If MS follows their usual pattern devkits with retail or close to retail silicon in them.
There is no real Alpha/Beta/Final Cycle with devkits, what people refer to as Alpha kits are usually marginally representative of the final hardware, but are largely about having a target with the real OS/API's on it.
Beta kits are usually based on early revisions of real silicon and often available in low quantities, the OS guys obviously need them and if the final silicon is very late devs working on launch titles will see one version or another of them.

 

[XpiderMX]

Then, no doubt Durango is the codename for next xbox.

Can we expect some leaks soon?

 

[Jugix]

Will someone care to explain this one to me?

I dont think there is anything to explain. Just some bug fix related to semaphores. Or did you mean to ask what is a semaphore? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semaphore_(programming)

 

[LXFBN]

I was told by a reliable source that Durango's GPU is Cape Verde, but somehow it has twice the capabilites. Still not sure what thats supposed to mean.

 

[N2O]

I was told by a reliable source that Durango's GPU is Cape Verde, but somehow it has twice the capabilites. Still not sure what thats supposed to mean.

Why would they use Cape Verde with "twice the capabilites" if they have a lot better choice(whatever route they going)?It's sounds pretty expensive