aye?as the majority think i believe its more to do with blu-ray + limited supply.
this is bad PR for sony, they'll be thinking roll on tokyo
No European PS3 launch until March
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this is bad PR for sony, they'll be thinking roll on tokyo
Yippee Ay Yay. Know who gets the shaft again? 
This is simply amazing. Sony starts a freaking pre-order campaign, probably knowing that they can't make it.
Anyway, we've seen some smoke-fires before (i.e. blue diodes), so it's not that unexpected, but nevertheless it's disappointing.
This is simply amazing. Sony starts a freaking pre-order campaign, probably knowing that they can't make it.
Anyway, we've seen some smoke-fires before (i.e. blue diodes), so it's not that unexpected, but nevertheless it's disappointing.
Heh, they started their advertising campaign yesterday. Something tells me this was kept very secret from most of the company until today.
Now to figure out the best way to import. Hoped not to have to do this again
Panajev2001a
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I suppose I'm annoyed, but given how Europe inevitably gets shafted every time anyway, it's not actually that surprising, even if it's a bit late in the day to hear about it.
I guess I'll see what happens with the US and JP launches - if they go well and machines aren't impossible to get, I'll consider picking up an import. I'll probably wait though - assuming the Nintendo thingy is out (I still can't bring myself to say its name) I might pick up one of those to entertain myself in the mean time.
Partly I'm kind of glad they're not trying to spread their units thinly across all territories just for the sake of a world-wide launch - massive shortages in all territories is probably going to be worse than a good launch in two and risking a few people changing their minds while waiting in the other - but I'm also aware that they already missed launch once, so this amounts to almost a years delay for Europe.
As a developer it means I might now have to worry about a title I'm working on being a launch title - not sure if that's good or bad!
MrWibble, you do realize that to announce the delay 5 days after forcing people to sign a NEW pre-order sheet and call their 800 phone number to CONFIRM the pre-order and the 100 Euro deposit (I pad the console already in full, 599.90 Euro) makes ZERO sense, right ? Sigh... sob...
I'd hold off on the import. Blu Ray is region coded and won't be easy to crack as last time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes
I suppose I'm annoyed, but given how Europe inevitably gets shafted every time anyway, it's not actually that surprising, even if it's a bit late in the day to hear about it.
I guess I'll see what happens with the US and JP launches - if they go well and machines aren't impossible to get, I'll consider picking up an import. I'll probably wait though - assuming the Nintendo thingy is out (I still can't bring myself to say its name) I might pick up one of those to entertain myself in the mean time.
Partly I'm kind of glad they're not trying to spread their units thinly across all territories just for the sake of a world-wide launch - massive shortages in all territories is probably going to be worse than a good launch in two and risking a few people changing their minds while waiting in the other - but I'm also aware that they already missed launch once, so this amounts to almost a years delay for Europe.
As a developer it means I might now have to worry about a title I'm working on being a launch title - not sure if that's good or bad!
Only problem is at launch there are shortages in all regions. you might as well launch with a limted amount of units since they will all sell out anyway. What Sony did with the PS2 was launch with a specific amount of units in NA, then they left that region dry while focusing on europe. either way all the units were sold out.
btw I guess you didn't see this coming? no rumors on your end of a possible delay?
Yes. Wish in one hand, shit in the other.......see which one fills up first......
Same thing in Germany where the pre-order campaign started about a month ago...
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34174
Sony signed a second contract with nVidia that is bringing in more revenue than the first Sony RSX contract. It really makes no sense it's for a PSP2. It doesn't make much sense it would be for a laptop Vaio computer. It only leaves the PS3 imho.
I pretty much never pre-order - if I do, I kind of expect delays
A pre-order shouldn't really come as a guarantee that you'll get something on a specific day, so much as a guaranteed place in the queue when stuff is available.
It does seem silly though - I was kind of surprised they were running an official pre-order thing at all, they don't usually do that.
MasterDisaster
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another delay in europe?
sony is in big big trouble then..
two xmas to 360 is an huge thing here
sony is in big big trouble then..
two xmas to 360 is an huge thing here
Nobody tells me anything
Yeah, they'll sell out whatever happens - but I guess they'd rather sell out with more units in the territory the opposition is strongest in, to erode as much of their lead as possible. Though if you follow that to it's logical conclusion, you'd launch in Europe before Japan
The G80 tape out timing wouldn't allow for Sony to fab enough GPU's for every territory.
Yeah, this Christmas they may even start to outsell PS2...
I'm not happy, but I don't think they're actually in trouble yet. A bad or delayed launch in the US would be much worse.
Panajev2001a
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I pretty much never pre-order - if I do, I kind of expect delays
A pre-order shouldn't really come as a guarantee that you'll get something on a specific day, so much as a guaranteed place in the queue when stuff is available.
It does seem silly though - I was kind of surprised they were running an official pre-order thing at all, they don't usually do that.
MrWibble, the OFFICIAL Sony pre-order sheet even indicated the date of the two shipments: November 17, 2006 and December 2006 (IIRC it was December 1, 2006).
I dunno. I think they want to launch in Asia because it's home turf and they're sure of sales, while needing to contend with Wii popularity, and I think they want to launch in NA to get some presence and counteract XB360. In Europe they don't need to worry about XB360 so much as that hasn't picked up here (although we may see this Christmas a change there. Perhaps MS should drop the price here and clean up the semi-early adopters), and the Wii seems to be aiming for a different market. I don't know that PS3 customers will have a change of heart and buy a Wii in November rather than wait 6 months. Our limited polls here have shown as much. If they don't have the units to sell, they either spread them thinly (at greater cost fo rthe returns) or stay out of some territories.
I think the big concern here is production rate. Obviously they're not making targets, which means production numbers will be down. How long until Sony can ramp these up? If they stay low, we may see a PSP style postponement of a year, and the installed base won't pick up enough to attract developers. This is sign of a huge problem for Sony I think. Instead of 6 million by March which was a sizeable number, if they're looking at 2-3 million and drips and drabs after that, they'll have negligable market, especially for these $multi-million games that won't make back their investment. Shareholders won't be happy, and hpoefully that'll prompt an announcement on what they're doing to fix the issue.
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